Boom goes the Evinrude (for the 2nd time)

[nellayor]

I have a 2007 Etec. The first time the powerhead failed with 160 hours. It was due to a failed injector.
After having a new powerhead installed the #2 cylinder is gone and need another powerhead after only 42 hours. This time the tech can not find a reason why the it blew. Computer shows nothing, injector appears to be working, they have no idea why it blew. He says it looks like fuel starvation, but does not know why.
Any ideas???
I've been without my boat for a month, and this is getting old. No new powerhead sent yet and still waiting on hearing if BRP is going to stand behind a powerhead with 42 hours. Looks like more waiting.

[SEAHORSE]

the dealer should have had an answer when he called the factory about if it's covered and when a new p/h would be shipped.

2 questions for you:

Did you call and talk to Evinrude Customer Service whose number is in your owners manual?

Did the dealer test run the boat with the replacement powerhead and perform a fuel vacuum and bubble test on the fuel system per the service manual procedure?

[nellayor]

The first powerhead blew a couple weeks after warranty. Evinrude sent a new powerhead, but I paid for labor.
The second powerhead blew 42 hours after putting it in. The dealer wants to speak with Evinrude first and see what they can do for me. They said it was better for me not to talk to them until we see what they can accomplish.
I don't know if the dealer did a test run on the boat with the replacement powerhead and perform a fuel vacuum and bubble test on the fuel system.
I guess that is the next question I will be asking them.
Thanks

[SEAHORSE]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by nellayor &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

I don't know if the dealer did a test run on the boat with the replacement powerhead and perform a fuel vacuum and bubble test on the fuel system.
I guess that is the next question I will be asking them.
Thanks</td></tr></table>

Insist most emphatically that they do the complete fuel system test procedure after the new p/h is installed. BRP usually requires it of the dealer, especially on a multiple powerhead failure.

[clm6741]

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Insist most emphatically that they do the complete fuel system test procedure after the new p/h is installed. BRP usually requires it of the dealer, especially on a multiple powerhead failure.</td></tr></table>


+1 on the fuel flow test

[gilly]

test all you want. until they develop a fail proof injector that delivers a full fuel charge or none at all, they will continue to blow. if they haven't done it in 10 years, i doubt it's going to happen.

[DoferGofer]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by gilly &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">test all you want. until they develop a fail proof injector that delivers a full fuel charge or none at all, they will continue to blow. if they haven't done it in 10 years, i doubt it's going to happen.</td></tr></table>
Gilly, Gilly, Gilly name me a company that makes perfect engines and perfect engine parts.

[Crosbyman]

my 1950's QD and FD still run pretty good :-)

[gilly]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by DoferGofer &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">
Gilly, Gilly, Gilly name me a company that makes perfect engines and perfect engine parts.

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it's all about percentages. we work on all the big 3 and i know what blows most and what causes it. just keep sniffin the roses.

[nellayor]

The fuel vacuum test was fine. Gas tanks have been checked for cracks and everything else. They still can not find anything that might have caused this motor to blow. Through the dealer, BRP offered a new powerhead at 1/2 price and I'd have to pay labor of course. That would still put me out $7000. That doesn't seem right to me. 2 powerheads in approximately 202 hours on a motor that boasts 3 years no maintenance. I guess the 4th year is what you really have to watch out for. I have called customer service to see if they are willing to help me out a little more. The Tech guy that made the offer was out, so I guess we will see what they come with.

Any pointers???

[boogerdoc2]

I would get a reman'd powerhead from Riverside Marine and see if BRP will float that. I think it's cheaper, it's hand made from BRP parts, get's you some more warranty, and (with all due major bias) gets you a block with very good track record.

[BarryCat]

I have often thought about purchasing a 40hp e-tec to replace my aging 25hp Mercury 2 stroke, but then I read threads like this one and I start to think better of it.

Does anyone know if the smaller e-tecs suffer from similar problems, or are they fairly trouble-free?

[SEAHORSE]

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Be sure to hang around a Chevy dealer service department and watch all the broken and troublesome cars that come in there every day. Then go to a Ford dealership and look at their service department. Same with Toyota, Caddie, etc.
All you will see are cars that need service work for one thing or another, especially on a Monday morning. Kind of makes you not want a car, right?

Maybe a bicycle and a set of oars would make you more comfortable with less worry about service problems.

[blake711]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SEAHORSE &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Be sure to hang around a Chevy dealer service department and watch all the broken and troublesome cars that come in there every day. Then go to a Ford dealership and look at their service department. Same with Toyota, Caddie, etc.
All you will see are cars that need service work for one thing or another, especially on a Monday morning. Kind of makes you not want a car, right?

Maybe a bicycle and a set of oars would make you more comfortable with less worry about service problems.</td></tr></table> that made me chuckle.

[BarryCat]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SEAHORSE &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Be sure to hang around a Chevy dealer service department and watch all the broken and troublesome cars that come in there every day. Then go to a Ford dealership and look at their service department. Same with Toyota, Caddie, etc.
All you will see are cars that need service work for one thing or another, especially on a Monday morning. Kind of makes you not want a car, right?

Maybe a bicycle and a set of oars would make you more comfortable with less worry about service problems.</td></tr></table>


Settle down, sparky.

It's always rather sad to see a grown man get so defensive over something as trivial as an outboard motor.

The internet is littered with angry E-TEC owners due to blown powerheads, so instead of responding to my concerns with a childish reply, maybe next time you could actually offer some helpful insight into the apparent powerhead issue that Evinrude seems to be having.

[SEAHORSE]

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Settle down, sparky.

It's always rather sad to see a grown man get so defensive over something as trivial as an outboard motor.

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One of 5 posts from a someone who's been a member here only 6 days, I'm impressed.

[rude150]

I don't see nothing trivial about being out $7000.

[BarryCat]

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Nor do I, but I was clearly speaking to SEAHORSE and not nellayor.

I have found that it is nearly impossible to have open and honest discussions on forums like these because people are far too emotional and defensive when it comes to products that they happen to own and/or like (or sell, in some cases).

I understand why it happens, but it is still sad nonetheless.

I simply would like to know if the smaller E-TEC's are suffering from the same high powerhead failure rates as the larger ones before I make a purchase.

[ChampioNman]

The smaller motors don't seem to have as many issues with them as their larger brothers do. Keep in mind most bass boaters beat the living crap out of their equipment. Not say all do but a majority of them do. ALL outboards have issues and blow. It would be nice to live in a perfect world with everything puppy dogs and ice cream but it isn't perfect at all. You can also check out http://www.etecownersgroup.com and get some more ideas. Also please keep this in the back of your mind, you only hear people bitching when they have an issue you rarely ever hear folks brag when things are going great.

[BarryCat]

Thanks for the info, ChampioNman.

I understand that no motor is going to be 100% perfect, 100% of the time, but I also understand that many people let their loyalty to certain brands blind them to what is actually going on.

The E-TEC is the only outboard that interests me enough to make me consider retiring my old Mercury, but the seemingly endless blown powerhead complaints have been enough to prevent me from actually going ahead with the purchase.

I can say with certainty that I would not purchase a high HP E-TEC because of this, but I've heard far fewer complaints when it comes to the smaller E-TEC's, so I'm still on the fence.

*Oh, and my apologies to nellayor for taking his thread off topic.