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    Management

    We kinda got off in a culling discussion of sorts a week ro so back, and thought some of you might like some info on management/biology....learning about this aspect of deer is more exciting to me than readin articles about hunting, so I'm sorry if I bore you....most articles can be found at the QDMA website...so this is semi plagiarized, but I make sure to post credit.... I don't think Bryan will mind anyway....

    We'll start this one out with an article by Kip Adams titled "Is Culling Necessary?" (just so happened to start with this one...not to try to drive home the culling point)


    By: Kip Adams

    Today many hunters are implementing deer management programs aimed at increasing the average age of bucks and the nutritional level for the deer herd. As they begin seeing more 2½ and older bucks, many managers become interested in improving the third piece of the antler formula – genetics. For decades, biologists have debated the practice of improving antler genetic potential by culling or removing specific bucks with undesirable antler traits. The idea is by removing these undesirable bucks you can improve overall antler quality within the deer herd. This idea works well in captivity because you can mate specific bucks to specific does, but is culling an effective strategy for improving the antler quality of free-ranging herds?

    First of all, what is culling? Some managers define culling as removing inferior yearling bucks with few antler points (spikes or three-pointers) or missing points such as brow tines. Others define culling as removing older bucks with a low number of antler points (8 points or less) or other undesirable traits such as a narrow spread. For this discussion, we’ll define culling as selectively removing bucks with any of these undesirable antler traits from any age class.

    Much research has been conducted on this subject, often with seemingly conflicting results. Research from the Kerr Wildlife Management Area in Texas suggested antler quality could be improved by removing spike-antlered yearling bucks. Research from Mississippi State University suggested that yearling bucks’ antlers were more a reflection of late birth date and poor nutrition rather than genetics. More current research on state hunting lands in Mississippi suggests that protection of poor-antlered yearling bucks (those with 3 or fewer points) under the state’s four-total-point rule has resulted in high-grading, and has produced smaller antlers in older bucks. Current research on the King Ranch in Texas suggests that even aggressive culling on a free-ranging deer herd at the 10,000-acre scale has little impact on antler quality. Confused? Me too.

    All of these research projects followed strict methodologies and had statistically significant results. However, there are so many variables involved within a deer herd and its habitat that it is difficult to control for each. For example, different deer herds have different population densities, age structures, sex ratios and nutritional levels (low vs. high). There are differences in soils, supplemental feeding programs, precipitation levels and countless other factors that play a role in a buck’s antlers. Therefore, the studies aren’t always comparing “apples to apples.”

    Before you decide which study is most applicable to your specific location, let’s look at the breeding ecology of whitetails. For culling to improve the genetic potential of a deer herd’s antlers, bucks that are protected must be able to pass their “superior” antler genes to many offspring. Thus, these bucks would have to breed many does and sire many fawns. These bucks’ male offspring would require access to high quality nutrition to fully express their antler potential, and they would have to remain in the area for the manager to benefit from his/her efforts.

    But do bucks breed many does? It had been widely assumed that a small number of dominant, large-antlered bucks sired most of the fawns. However, current research shows mature bucks don’t monopolize breeding rites. Even in populations with good age structure, yearlings and 2½-year-olds sired 15-30% of the fawns in northern and southern studies. Interestingly, some large bucks don’t appear to sire any fawns. In Dr. Randy DeYoung’s long-term study (over 11 years) bucks averaged less than three fawns per year (this is the number of fawns that survived to six months of age and were recruited into the population). There is also the incidence of multiple paternity. Two studies identified multiple paternity in 22-24% of multiple litters. That means one of every four to five sets of twins/triplets had multiple fathers! So, dominant bucks don’t breed all of the does and they don’t even sire all of the fawns from the does they breed!

    Since many bucks each do a small amount of the breeding, and since does may breed with multiple bucks, it is impossible to control or even predict which bucks breed which does in the wild. Thus, it is difficult to control the genetic traits you select for (or against) by selectively harvesting bucks based on antler characteristics. And, it is difficult to improve (or degrade) the genetic traits within a deer herd by selectively harvesting bucks based on antler characteristics.

    The good news is that we can improve antler size through our harvesting efforts. However, I’m not referring to removing specific bucks. Rather, I’m talking about passing young bucks so they can grow older and have the opportunity to express more of their antler growth potential. This improves the “age” factor of the antler formula and it is extremely easy to do. We can also harvest an appropriate number of does so bucks have more available forage. This, in combination with habitat management, improves the “nutrition” factor of the antler formula. Again, this is easy to do.

    It’s important to remember that many deer herds have skewed sex ratios, young buck age structures and they exceed their habitat’s carrying capacity. In these situations, spikes and small antlers are generally caused by poor nutrition and/or late birth date. These parameters do not allow bucks to express their full genetic potential. We also need to remember that most abnormal antlers are NOT genetically based. Most result from injuries to the skull, pedicle, antler or body, and thus culling would have no effect on the antler genetics of the herd.

    Let’s revisit the research projects. The results from Dr. Mickey Hellickson’s recent culling study in South Texas are likely the most applicable to the average deer manager because of the intensity of the culling efforts and the size of the study area. Mickey and his colleagues intensively culled the smallest antlered bucks in all age classes for six straight years on 10,000 acres on the King Ranch in Texas. When the study was over, the average antler quality per age class was slightly SMALLER than when they started! While factors such as yearling buck dispersal off the study area could partially account for lack of impact, it clearly suggests that even intensive culling on this scale is unlikely to impact genetics.

    So, should we be culling “inferior” bucks? If they are young bucks, the answer is ‘no’ for most of the whitetail’s range because they may have been born late or have been nutritionally deprived. If they are older bucks, the answer depends. If you have a surplus of bucks and you really dislike a certain buck – regardless of age - then go ahead and cull him. However, don’t expect it to make a big difference in what you see for antlers in the future. He’s likely not siring a lot of fawns and of the ones he sires, the doe contributes half to their offspring’s antler quality. Also, about 50-75% of yearling bucks disperse one to five miles from where they were born, so an average of ½ to ¾ of his sons will leave the area anyway. Unless you’re involved in a trophy management program with a balanced buck-to-doe ratio, good buck age structure and optimum nutrition, I wouldn’t cull him.

    Kip’s Korner is written by Kip Adams, a Certified Wildlife Biologist and Northern Director of Education and Outreach for the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA). The QDMA is an international nonprofit wildlife conservation organization dedicated to ethical hunting, sound deer management and preservation of the deer-hunting heritage. The QDMA can be reached at 1-800-209-DEER or http://www.QDMA.com.

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    Re: Management (Chad)

    Well, it gets no argument from me but that should come as no surprise considering my earlier posts. Probably the biggest factor in the way we are now viewing how the breeding works is the fact that the dominant bucks don't seem to sire as many fawns as we always assumed they did.

    What I want to figure out is how to restore deer in areas of our state where the herd has been essentially wiped out. Do you have any idea how discouraging it is to try to hunt deer in an area estimated to only hold 1 to 1.5 deer per square mile? I have an idea that I'd call Deer Seed but it would require a big change in my lifestyle and marital status to implement it.
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    Re: Management (BP in ME)

    IMO this culling or "management bucks" is probably the silliest thing in the sport today.

    First off its widely known that Does represent 1/2 of the breeding cycle. 1/2 of the genes come from the does too.

    Also im in agreement with this idea of non-dominant bucks breeding too. We're not talking about elks where the herd roams together and the bull actually fights off non-doms. Im also sure that non-dom elk bulls breed into the herds controlled by another bull. Its generally noted that females dominate the numbers game in wildlife, and that a true management agenda would care less upon the trophy status as the herd status. Limiting the genetic pool ends up hurting the species. Look at the dog breeders, true bloodlines are showing more and more apt to certain diseases and ailments. Nature will "cull" inferior bucks and does on its own.

    So this culling idea is a nonsense created by the deer hunting dolts. They place less importance on deer hunting, and more on spending thousands on a "trophy".
    This whole notion fueled by camo makers, call makers, bow makers, outdoor TV chanels and shows, does nothing for the sport, only pocketbooks. I think this does nothing to promote the sport in a positive manner, especially for the youth.
    If a youngster learns that if you dont get a trophy youre not "hunting" is the message that is conveyed to them. Sure shows will throw in the gratuitous youth hunt, but watch the season as a whole and you learn that only trophies are worth taking.

    Personally i doubt id ever see a 200 class buck in the field, I hunt and i enjoy hunting. I wont practice culling and i sure try and not watch shows that talk about culling as a "quality management" idea thats important to the herd and preached as gospel.

    /end rant



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    Re: Management (mosouthpaw)

    I AGREE!!!! If you want big deer...you have to let the little ones grow big...PERIOD!!! Killing a spike or a "jacked up" 5 pointer will probably only keep them from becoming BIG DEER!!! The old adage of "once a spike always a spike" and you need to get rid of them is TOTAL B/S!!!! I got an 11 pointer (155 total inches) on the wall that had a white spot about the size of a baseball on it's neck on the right side. Well...we got trail cam photos from 3 years earlier of a SPIKE with that EXACT same spot in the same area of the neck. The biggest thing that can help on small farms like ours (165 acres) is to set aside a portion (we did this with 30 acres) and call it a "sanctuary" and never...NEVER go in there!!!! Let it grow nasty and thick and STAY OUT OF THERE!!!! That is really about the only thing a small farm can do to keep deer on it...let's face it, if you let little bucks walk and they leave the property...all bets are off from that point on!! You would be suprised how many track we see of deer coming and going to and from the "sanctuary". A mature deer will soon figure this area out!! Steve
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