Mercury ecu programming now in US

[188Musky]

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You didn’t fix anything.

While we are talking about reading comprehension, the statement I responded to was this:

I'm not aware of any outboard manufacturer that permits performance modification of production engines while under warranty. Quite simply: It's ILLEGAL.

I made absolutely no mention of emissions, nor did Don in his original statement. What’s so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance isn’t illegal?

[novakevlar]

You didn’t fix anything.

While we are talking about reading comprehension, the statement I responded to was this:



I made absolutely no mention of emissions, nor did Don in his original statement. What’s so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance isn’t illegal?

What's so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance actually may be illegal? Your statement is false.

OK your turn.

[188Musky]

What's so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance actually may be illegal? Your statement is false.

OK your turn.

Say I have a 225, which is the same engine as a 250, and perhaps a 300, save for the ECU and a couple other minor differences.

You're saying it's illegal to put the same things on my 225 that the factory puts on the same engine to make a 250 or 300?

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[novakevlar]

Say I have a 225, which is the same engine as a 250, and perhaps a 300, save for the ECU and a couple other minor differences.

You're saying it's illegal to put the same things on my 225 that the factory puts on the same engine to make a 250 or 300?

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The rule says you can't tamper and cannot reprogram onboard computers, period. It doesn't say "you can reprogram as long as it's the same as it's bigger 300hp brother".

Also consider these tunes may not just be putting back what was there. My 250 tune gets 332hp and raises the rev limit to 6500. The exhaust smells noticeably different. The fuel efficiency is better than a stock 300. I have no idea how the tune accomplishes this but it's not a stock 300.

Could it be putting out LESS HC+NOx after the tune? Yeah but to the letter of the law it doesn't matter, if it's a certified engine then you can't legally tune it.

[188Musky]

The rule says you can't tamper and cannot reprogram onboard computers, period. It doesn't say "you can reprogram as long as it's the same as it's bigger 300hp brother".

Also consider these tunes may not just be putting back what was there. My 250 tune gets 332hp and raises the rev limit to 6500. The exhaust smells noticeably different. The fuel efficiency is better than a stock 300. I have no idea how the tune accomplishes this but it's not a stock 300.

Could it be putting out LESS HC+NOx after the tune? Yeah but to the letter of the law it doesn't matter, if it's a certified engine then you can't legally tune it.

Are you that close-minded that you think reprogramming an ECU is the only way to improve performance of a motor?

What about replacing the ECU, among other parts?

Stop, you're sounding more foolish with each post.

[novakevlar]

Are you that close-minded that you think reprogramming an ECU is the only way to improve performance of a motor?

What about replacing the ECU, among other parts?

Stop, you're sounding more foolish with each post.

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

[188Musky]

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

Never once did I say you can make any performance modification you want, legally.

I said this, after it was stated that performing performance modifications was illegal:

With all due respect, Don, it’s not illegal to perform performance modifications on a motor you own.

It still isn't illegal. Having to insist that I said things I didn't is literally an admission that you're wrong.



BTW, you still haven't posted any law that says it's illegal to make performance modifications on your motor, only ones that say it's illegal to modify emissions or reprogram electronics to change emissions.

[DoctorJJ]

What's so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance actually may be illegal? Your statement is false.

OK your turn.

First it was said it’s illegal. Now it’s said that it may be illegal. The pic you posted talked about modifying something that changes the emissions. There are tons of EPA compliant tunes sold everywhere. Educate yourself. Google that phrase. You guys also need to read the Magnuson Moss Act. Manufacturers can’t deny a warranty claim unless they can prove the modification is what caused the failure.