Mercury ecu programming now in US

[novakevlar]

Are you that close-minded that you think reprogramming an ECU is the only way to improve performance of a motor?

What about replacing the ECU, among other parts?

Stop, you're sounding more foolish with each post.

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

[188Musky]

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

Never once did I say you can make any performance modification you want, legally.

I said this, after it was stated that performing performance modifications was illegal:

With all due respect, Don, it’s not illegal to perform performance modifications on a motor you own.

It still isn't illegal. Having to insist that I said things I didn't is literally an admission that you're wrong.



BTW, you still haven't posted any law that says it's illegal to make performance modifications on your motor, only ones that say it's illegal to modify emissions or reprogram electronics to change emissions.

[novakevlar]

BTW, you still haven't posted any law that says it's illegal to make performance modifications on your motor, only ones that say it's illegal to modify emissions or reprogram electronics to change emissions.

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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[DoctorJJ]

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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From the article you linked: In the future the EPA may…

Do research. Plenty of aftermarket EPA compliant tunes for various car engines that add tons of torque and hp but don’t run afoul of the law.

[novakevlar]

From the article you linked: In the future the EPA may…

Do research. Plenty of aftermarket EPA compliant tunes for various car engines that add tons of torque and hp but don’t run afoul of the law.

In the future they may go after your tune, that's what the article is warning about, not that in the future the EPA will create a new regulation.

I've had plenty of tunes, he's the fine print from my last one:


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Go read each of my replies in this thread, I've been pretty clear that modifications MAY be illegal. Especially if you are increasing HP, you are increasing the likelihood of changing emissions that the engine was originally certified at. I'm not talking about a K&N filter.

Sure there may be tunes out there that went through the EPA or CARB certification process and are legal. But they still had to prove those mods either did not increase emissions or were otherwise compliant.

[PatriotAW4]

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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"May consider" does not mean it's a law. You need to learn how to interpret what you read.

[188Musky]

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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Did you even read the article you posted? It’s actually an opinion piece based on speculation, none of which is actual law.. ..and to think you brought up reading comprehension previously.

“The EPA’s continuing skepticism…”

“EPA’s interpretation”

“Purportedly”

“In the future, the EPA may consider…”

“It is possible it could be conceived otherwise,…”


You’ve also made the incorrect assumption that any performance modifications will change emissions, (irrelevant as that may be) include ECU reprogramming, or in fact, create 75 more horsepower.

Still not illegal.

[novakevlar]

Did you even read the article you posted? It’s actually an opinion piece based on speculation, none of which is actual law.. ..and to think you brought up reading comprehension previously.

“The EPA’s continuing skepticism…”

“EPA’s interpretation”

“Purportedly”

“In the future, the EPA may consider…”

“It is possible it could be conceived otherwise,…”


You’ve also made the incorrect assumption that any performance modifications will change emissions, (irrelevant as that may be) include ECU reprogramming, or in fact, create 75 more horsepower.

Still not illegal.

OK last link since no one seems convinced by my diatribes. Read closely about tampering, changes to fuel and timing, and why they don't go after people (reasonable bias). I'll gladly enjoy my TUNED outboard as I get in some fishing tomorrow! Peace out fellas!

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/fi...s-enfalert.pdf

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[dean c]

OK last link since no one seems convinced by my diatribes. Read closely about tampering, changes to fuel and timing, and why they don't go after people (reasonable bias). I'll gladly enjoy my TUNED outboard as I get in some fishing tomorrow! Peace out fellas!

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/fi...s-enfalert.pdf

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Oh come on now…just a classic BBC lounge argument…they still love you.

[188Musky]

Oh come on now…just a classic BBC lounge argument…they still love you.

We do.

It’s about the show, not about the details.

[yatesville88fan]

OK last link since no one seems convinced by my diatribes. Read closely about tampering, changes to fuel and timing, and why they don't go after people (reasonable bias). I'll gladly enjoy my TUNED outboard as I get in some fishing tomorrow! Peace out fellas!

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/fi...s-enfalert.pdf

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Didn't u post that u had your motor flashed?