Is there an option when ordering a new Mercury 225 Pro XS motor to get either of these LUs? Didn't know I had a choice when I ordered my 2007 rig.
What are the major advantages of one over the other?
If you are attaching that motor to a Ranger bassboat, wouldn't the torquemaster LU be the best option?
Finally, how can I determine which LU I have on my rig? Are they easily identifiable one from the other?
The torque master is a better option for your boat. A sport master has more mass and will actually slow you down due to the extra drag unless you have a hull that likes the motor real high where you can get the lower unit almost completely out of the water and illeviate drag.
The torque master will look like a standard gear case with holes on the side and 4 holes in the nose. Not sure if they are all not painted but most are.
The sport master is longer from front to back and only has holes in the nose cone for low water pickup. This application is generally for boat running over 85 mph.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrownTrout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there an option when ordering a new Mercury 225 Pro XS motor to get either of these LUs? Didn't know I had a choice when I ordered my 2007 rig.
What are the major advantages of one over the other?
If you are attaching that motor to a Ranger bassboat, wouldn't the torquemaster LU be the best option?
Finally, how can I determine which LU I have on my rig? Are they easily identifiable one from the other?
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There is no choice on the ProXS engines. All current production 3L engines in the ProXS lineup come with the "Verado Style" gearcase. It would be well suited to your boat, and has an excellent track record. Recent tests performed with this gearcase show that in many cases, it was actually "slightly faster" than the Torquemaster (the former "ProXS gearcase).
If you have a painted gearcase (black), and utilize the large, stainless "heavy duty" prop hub, you have either a Torquemaster or a Fleetmaster case.
To tell the difference between the Torquemaster and Fleetmaster, simply inspect the starboard (right) side of the skeg.
The Torquemaster has a "cast in torque tab" at the rear of the skeg, on the starboard side (hence, the name "Torquemaster").
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EuropeanAM »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> . . . To tell the difference between the Torquemaster and Fleetmaster, simply inspect the starboard (right) side of the skeg.
The Torquemaster has a "cast in torque tab" at the rear of the skeg, on the starboard side (hence, the name "Torquemaster").
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Not sure what you mean by "cast in torque tab".
On RH rotation sportsmasters, the back of the skeg has a little bend to the right. Counter rotation sportsmasters do not have this bend. Also, sportsmasters only have slotted water pickups under the nose cone, and are not painted.
Brown Trout, you have a Torquemaster!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EuropeanAM »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no choice on the ProXS engines. All current production 3L engines in the ProXS lineup come with the "Verado Style" gearcase. It would be well suited to your boat, and has an excellent track record. Recent tests performed with this gearcase show that in many cases, it was actually "slightly faster" than the Torquemaster (the former "ProXS gearcase).
If you have a painted gearcase (black), and utilize the large, stainless "heavy duty" prop hub, you have either a Torquemaster or a Fleetmaster case.
To tell the difference between the Torquemaster and Fleetmaster, simply inspect the starboard (right) side of the skeg.
The Torquemaster has a "cast in torque tab" at the rear of the skeg, on the starboard side (hence, the name "Torquemaster").
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What does the Fleetmaster use to compensate for not having a "cast in torque tab"?
With the Fleetmaster, will I still be able to use the same hub kit and props as I did with the Torquemaster?
The Fleetmaster is identical to the Torquemaster- except that it is missing the "cast-in torque tab".
Fleetmaster is commonly was commonly used on Counter Rotation Engines (dual engine applications).
It will work on a standard engine, however.
I understand that BOTH gearcases are now replaced with the Verado Style Case.
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Still consider myself a "Marine Apprentice" after 48 years (learn something new every day).
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There is no choice on the ProXS engines. All current production 3L engines in the ProXS lineup come with the "Verado Style" gearcase. It would be well suited to your boat, and has an excellent track record. Recent tests performed with this gearcase show that in many cases, it was actually "slightly faster" than the Torquemaster (the former "ProXS gearcase).
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I presume this is a recent change. I ask because the current Merc website says the 250 Pro XS comes with the Torquemaster gearcase. http://www.mercurymarine.com/e...s.php
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I presume this is a recent change. I ask because the current Merc website says the 250 Pro XS comes with the Torquemaster gearcase. http://www.mercurymarine.com/e...s.php</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is a recent change. Takes a while for all the spec pages to get updated.
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What is the Verado lower unit -- that is, how does it differ from the Toquemaster ??
The Verado gearcase was designed for the Supercharged Verado 6 cyl.
It sports a MUCH beefier propshaft, heavier case & bearings, and a very durable gearset.
The gearcase is suitable to be run as EITHER right or left hand rotation... with a simple change of the bellcrank position.
This gearcase is also slightly longer (front to back) than the Torquemaster, still utilizes the low-water pickups, and utilizes "traditional" Flo-Thru Torque Prop Hubs.
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Does it have any torque reduction capability designed into it (like the torquemaster) ?
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No it does NOT (other than a slight increase in length).
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I hate to drag this topic out, but I am about to order a 250 Pro XS (on a 21' Bullet), and was assuming it would come with the TM lower unit.
Question #1: How much difference will I see in steering effort with no torque reduction (boat will have Teleflex SeaStar Pro hydraulic steering) ? I have to ask this dumb-sounding question because of some severe disc problems in my neck and back. Extra steering torque is a big deal for me.
Question #2: Even though Mercury is shipping motors with the Verado lower unit, is it still possible to oder an engine with the TM lower unit ?
#1: In my opinion.... only a slight difference.
#2: The engine will come with the Verado style gearcase. Only way to get the TM or the SM is to order it separately.... (on the ProXS, anyway).
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EGAMMON,
the BULLET will have the 6300 cylinder on the sea star (high psi/torque resistance)
it will steer fine, also you'll run a 4-blade so it helps big time. I feel its a win/win and the new case has held up fine.
go with RACING XS and run 1:62 gears, pay for the additional 1- yr warranty for a total of 3 years, or you'll get the Pro XS w/ 5 yr warranty and the new case (1:75) i think.
JEFF MURRAY USMC
RANGER Z521C & 15 VERADO PRO 250
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