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    Tempest Vs. Trophy= ????

    Ok, Was finally able to get out and run the boat with the new (to me) 26P Tempest Plus. I started at 4 inches below the pad and adjusted from that point up to 3.25 and back down to 4.5. The best speed I was able to get was 61 on the GPS. Handling was ok, I had to put the block off PVS plug in the prop to keep it from cavitating upon hole shot. RPMS were up to 5800 and as low as 5600 when the motor was set deep. When the motor was at 3.5 and higher,at full trim and WOT I was throwing a roost about 10 feet tall (at least) and the best I could get was about 56 mph on the GPS. I played all around with trim settings but that was about the best. The 61mph came from when the motor was at 4 inches. I went back to the Trophy (25p) plus and repeated all the same tests. Hole shot was better and top speed was 63.8 mph The trophy seems to like it best at about 4 inches. Roost was about motor high and rpms were at 5800+/-. Now FYI, I was loaded heavy, full tank of gas, reserve tank half full and all gear and my two fishing buddies (My boys 15 and 11). I did notice that the bow lift on the Tempest was very weak compared to the Trophy, I could really feel the bow up in the air with the trophy. So, my question is...do these findings in my experiment seem correct? And where do I go from here? Drop to a 25 tempest like Pat suggested? Would could I do to help with the bow lift, this seems to be holding me back. I'm open to any suggestions. Not that the boat is running bad by any means, I (we) are really enjoying it compared to my 1986 184 that I had. I guess like my wife says- "I just like f@$%ing with things." On a side note, this really proves that the 26 raker I had must of had some serious slip going on to be running like it did. Thanks guys!


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    Re: Tempest Vs. Trophy= ???? (rpbwhntfsh)

    Thats a STOUT JohnRude!

    That looks like a lot of slip as well.

    If you can turn the 26 Tempest i would send it to Mark or another well know prop Guru and have the ballence and Blueprint it, as these are not very accurate out of the box.
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    Re: Tempest Vs. Trophy= ???? (rpbwhntfsh)

    On other hulls my experience has been a Trophy flies the bow better, a Tempest lifts the hull better. I wonder if you could get side by side running pics of one with a Trophy and one with a Tempest if you'd see the Tempest hull running higher and flatter vs the Trophy with more wetted surface and the nose up.

    I'm about to run a 23 TXP OT4 I just got back. It had too much stern lift on my last hull vs a Trophy which makes me think(hope) it might do OK on this hull.


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    Re: Tempest Vs. Trophy= ???? (mha)

    I'll have to see if I can do that. Heading up to Minnesota this weekend (not fishing unfortunately) so I'll have to try next week. Problem will be getting my son out of the boat and on the shore to take a couple drive by pics. Anyone else have any ideas on these findings? Thanks
    1994- 1860 Duracraft in the build
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    Lowrance Elite 7
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    Hoping to hit 40mph...downstream
    Custom Quachita 1648, 30 HP Rude, 45000 Lumens of light
    1994-190 Champion DCX, 200 Evinrude Vindicator, 67mph gps RIP
    Bowfishing Association of Illinois
    "Saving your Bass one Carp at a time"

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    Re: Tempest Vs. Trophy= ???? (rpbwhntfsh)

    26 Tempest are inconsistent out of the box.

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    Wow, that hits home! Very parallel to me for sure. Looks like I need to give mark a call. Thanks!


    1994- 1860 Duracraft in the build
    90HP Mercury 2 Smoke
    Lowrance Elite 7
    Minn Kota 101
    Hoping to hit 40mph...downstream
    Custom Quachita 1648, 30 HP Rude, 45000 Lumens of light
    1994-190 Champion DCX, 200 Evinrude Vindicator, 67mph gps RIP
    Bowfishing Association of Illinois
    "Saving your Bass one Carp at a time"

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    Re: (rpbwhntfsh)

    Dad had our 26" tempest at the prop shop yesterday and they said 2 blades were 25" and 1 was 26". He (prop guy) wasn't worried about it so that means that Mark's props will be getting some work. That would explain our higher rpms. Our Renegade is off even farther than the tempest was. Tempest is supposed to be new and is wrong out of the box........doesn't make sense to me.

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    It makes perfect sense if you've ever run a bunch of them....more than a few times, take literally 10 identical out of the box props and get 10 different results. I don't care what B.S. you read on an advertisement, none are very consistent.

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    Re: (pmgoffjr)

    For the money they get it should be better. Oh well, I know the issue now. If we wait awhile to get things squared up are the different pitch blades going to cause an issue?

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