Basketball rule question

[BP in ME]

Any refs or coaches out there who can shed some light on this? My daughter's coach is telling the kids that the 3-second rule applies no matter what. My concern with that is when I see some of the girls not try for a rebound because they don't want to be called for 3 seconds. IMO an offensive rebound situation basically resets the clock.

I told him that in my 40+ years of playing/watching ball, I don't recall a ref ever blowing the whistle for 3 seconds when there's a loose ball to be had. And consider the options: the player stays in the lane, fights for the rebound and MIGHT get called for 3 seconds (a turnover). Or the player bails out of the lane virtually guaranteeing that the other team gets the ball and maybe with a fast break. He remained unconvinced.

[smalljawguy]

This is what I found from a rulebook online. I think it's really more of a judgement call sometimes from what I've seen.

The rule states that while a team is in possession of the ball, an offensive player shall NOT remain in the key for more than three consecutive seconds. The lines bounding the key are part of the restricted area and a player touching one of these lines is considered in the area. The 3 second restriction does NOT apply: A) While the ball is in the air during a shot for goal. B) During a rebound or C) When the ball is dead. If the ref calls a 3 second violation, the ball is immediately turned over to the opposing team.

[bigclubswinger]

It stops when the shot goes up and starts over on an offensive rebound. The three second count only applies when the players team is in control of the ball and control stops when the shot goes up.

Here's the NCAA rule book on the 3 second rule. Unless they have a special 3-second rule (which some leagues do modify the rules sometimes in crazy ways) I would suggest this is the rule they should follow.


http://www.ncaapublications.co...1.pdf

page 120

Section 9. Three-Second Rule
Art. 1. A player shall not be permitted to have any part of his or her body
remain in the three-second lane for more than three consecutive seconds
while the ball is in control of that player’s team in his or her front court.
a. A team in control of the ball for a throw-in adjacent to a front-court
boundary line may not be called for a three-second violation.
Art. 2. Allowance shall be made for a player who, having been in the threesecond
lane for less than three seconds, dribbles or moves in immediately
to try for field goal.
a. The player shall not pass the ball instead of trying for goal.

[billius]

What a lot of people don't realize is that three seconds can be called, even if the ball isn't in the front court. It could be called if a team takes the ball out, after the opponent makes a shot, and one of their players is in the lane under their basket. I've only seen it called once, but it can be done. As long as your team is in control of the ball, three seconds can be called.

[bigclubswinger]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by billius &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">What a lot of people don't realize is that three seconds can be called, even if the ball isn't in the front court. It could be called if a team takes the ball out, after the opponent makes a shot, and one of their players is in the lane under their basket. I've only seen it called once, but it can be done. As long as your team is in control of the ball, three seconds can be called.</td></tr></table>

Not according to the rules I posted above.

[billius]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by bigclubswinger &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Not according to the rules I posted above.</td></tr></table>

You've posted NCAA rules. In Indiana high school ball no mention of front court or back court has been made. It has been the rule for years, unless it has been changed recently.

[BP in ME]

Well, it's comforting to know I haven't lost my mind completely. It didn't seem right but I couldn't quote the rulebook.

[Bigrod]

At younger age groups it's usually 5 seconds as well

[Earl320V]

what the coach needs to do is: teach the girls how to go into the lane,with one or two feet, then out, in and out then it isn't 3 seconds. Step in, then out, or pass straight through to the other side etc.

[coachallen]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by bigclubswinger &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">It stops when the shot goes up and starts over on an offensive rebound. The three second count only applies when the players team is in control of the ball and control stops when the shot goes up.

Here's the NCAA rule book on the 3 second rule. Unless they have a special 3-second rule (which some leagues do modify the rules sometimes in crazy ways) I would suggest this is the rule they should follow.


http://www.ncaapublications.co...1.pdf

page 120

Section 9. Three-Second Rule
Art. 1. A player shall not be permitted to have any part of his or her body
remain in the three-second lane for more than three consecutive seconds
while the ball is in control of that player’s team in his or her front court.
a. A team in control of the ball for a throw-in adjacent to a front-court
boundary line may not be called for a three-second violation.
Art. 2. Allowance shall be made for a player who, having been in the threesecond
lane for less than three seconds, dribbles or moves in immediately
to try for field goal.
a. The player shall not pass the ball instead of trying for goal.</td></tr></table>

This is correct. I coached basketball for several years. Once the shot goes up it suppose to reset. You need to have the coach to keep the kids moving out of lane.

[BP in ME]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Earl320V &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">what the coach needs to do is: teach the girls how to go into the lane,with one or two feet, then out, in and out then it isn't 3 seconds. Step in, then out, or pass straight through to the other side etc.</td></tr></table>

I agree and he's doing a pretty good job of stressing that but they don't want to be stepping out when they should be staying in and rebounding.