moderator comments

[oceansmasher]

Since you guys work in the industry, The truth is that this spark plug wear has been a problem and is still a problem with e-tec' s Ive been dealing with it for five years on my 2000 ficht's . Is this just inherent with this design and should I be prepared to change out plugs every 50 hrs. on my new E-tec's ?

[SEAHORSE]

There is NO reason that you should be changing out sparkplugs every 50 hours. That tells me your dealer tech is not doing his job and not reading service bulletins, or even contacting the factory hot-line for techs. Depending on how you use the motor, you should be getting close to the 300 hours like most other E-TEC owners.

The FICHTS, which do have shorter plug life, 75-100 hours is normal depending on your rpm profile.

Contact BRP customer service with your serial number at 847-689-7090 and be sure to get the person's name to whom you talked. They will get the motor fixed up the way it should be.

[Kbass]

Oceansmasher, whats up with all the hostility toward the Etec?

[SEAHORSE]

Now let's get this straight. This was your second post about short sparkplug life in an E-TEC.

Do you own an E-TEC that is only getting 50 hours per plug, or do you "know" of somebody who is only getting 50 hours per plug?

If you own an E-TEC, give me the serial number so we can check on things for you. If it is somebody else, ask them to email me or post the serial number so we can help them out.

Is there anything else about this story that has not been mentioned or that we should be aware of?


We have to ask these questions as there are "folks" who go around to newsgroups and post all kinds of stories without substantiation, then disappear. Most of the time they use made up names and sometimes they come from European or Asian countries, even though they try to hide their ISP.

the one thing about this newsgroup is we don't put up with #**t and we have the capabilities to solve all kinds of problems, unlike other sites.

[johnrude]

Im amazed that you are having this problem. I am more amazed that your dealer can not find the problem if you are having one. The ETEC is a very simple engine to figure out why it is going thru spark plugs. There are a few service bullitens your dealer should be looking at that deal with this issue. If your dealer is not finding the problem I would call BRP and tell them that your dealer is having problems and can not fix it.

[Bassmeister]

Dat'sd why I 'm loving it here, Our mods believe in the truth and barebones explainations!!!!!. We are very short on halftruths,phishin', and general trouble makin'!!! If anyone is in this catagory then you should check the archives on this forum and you will see a lot of shakin' goin' on!!!!!!

[oceansmasher]

I personally don't change out plugs every 50 hrs. A friend that I spoke with today does. He even mentioned that Bombardier recommends this. He maybe wrong, this is just what he told me (don't shoot the messenger)

I do own twin ficht 150's year 2000 serial #'s g04786882 and g04789211 and yes I have had my fair share of problems and spark plug issues were one @ $11.00 each it adds up .

To seahorse I'm not one of those "folks" I'm a native texan not european but I did just spend a small fortune on twin 2007 60 degree e-tec's and just wanted some friendly advice about what I'm going to look foward too.

boy I sure fired up you guys I hope no one has a heart attack. oh yea to kbass I don't think your a moderator and I never asked for your two cents anyway. And by the way I've owned omc since I was a kid i think that's pretty loyal.

[kjhough]

Okay, we have had a lot of talk on the spark plug issue. I have even posted my problems with this and will be going to the dealer next week. First set of plugs on my 2006 e-tec 75 H.P. did not survive 90 hours. Dealer changed them and now I have 40 hours on this set and the same problem - erratic RPM's at low speed and takes too many revolutions to start. So what do some of these bulletins say about this ???????

[SEAHORSE]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kjhough &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to start. So what do some of these bulletins say about this ??????? </TD></TR></TABLE>


Engine operating temperature !

[SEAHORSE]

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I do own twin ficht 150's year 2000 serial #'s g04786882 and g04789211 and yes I have had my fair share of problems ...

I did just spend a small fortune on twin 2007 60 degree e-tec's and just wanted some friendly advice about what I'm going to look foward too.
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OK, do you still own both boats or just the E-TEC's now?

You better ask your "friend" to come visit here or at least call BRP customer service ! Either he is exaggerating, lying or being lied to.

You've come to the right place if you want the true scoop on Evinrude and Johnson products, but there bunches of folks who badmouth and leave and we have no patience or respect for them, no matter which brand they badmouth.


Ain't no heart attacks here, but we've seen too much bull$**t flying around and don't cotton to it.

Welcome to BBC, we hope you stick around.

[e-tec_angler]

Glad to see the upfront talk against all of this I have a "friend"...I know a "guy" that has problems with his E-TEC. If I want to read that kind of garbage I can go to florida sportsman or hull truth boards.

Thanks Seahorse!!!

[oceansmasher]

seahorse, I'm in the process of pulling fichts off and putting them in trader. I've purchased 60degree 200's but am still waiting. Yes I will stick around for awhile but not as sheep, I too like answers and I 'm just a little concerned if any of the issues of ficht is still around on the e-tec. I like to hear from real people using them to know if they are experiencing any issues

[oceansmasher]

E-tec angler: Yes I do have a "friend "maybe unlike you ! And yes I spoke with him again to verify that he has spark plug issues. Would you like his name and number where you could ask him directly , then maybe you too would have a friend . I post here for the truth I don't need someone stating I'm making stuff up

[e-tec_angler]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oceansmasher &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">E-tec angler: Yes I do have a "friend "maybe unlike you ! And yes I spoke with him again to verify that he has spark plug issues. Would you like his name and number where you could ask him directly , then maybe you too would have a friend . I post here for the truth I don't need someone stating I'm making stuff up </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, but many other boards there are new posters bashing E-TEC's with their very first post...sorry for being "gunshy".

Not that the E-TEC is completely "bulleproof"...although the closest of any outboard...most problems seem to be faulty rigging and lack of knowledge on the service guys part.

I don't need his name or number as I have many friends that are running trouble free E-TEC's.

[oceansmasher]

etec angler yes He did tell me the dealer was inept in rigging the boat so he took it to a guy he knows that is NOT a dealer and had it re-rigged could this be an issue maybe?

[GhostComanche]

good post SeaHorse!!!!

[TBirck]

Oceansmasher, I have a 2003 250 Evinrude. It is not the E-Tech but the DFI. I have only had problems with a trim roller breaking. All the problems with the Ficht morors were resolved when BRP took things over.
To answer your question in regards to the E-Tech, you are not making a mistake by purchasing this motor. Have spoken with several people that are runing them with 0 problems and reporting great fuel and oil consumption. Have only heard of one person that has had a problem but I also know the dealer and know that I would not let them service my $39 weedeater.
Good luck with the changeout.

[200xp]

I have owned a 225HO E-TEC since March of 2005. No one could abuse this motor more than I have. I run wide open regardless of distance and water conditions. I have made 90 mile one way runs at WOT. I run this motor at higher rpm's than your supposed to. I have yet to experience the first problem or have I talked to any other E-TEC owners who have experienced problems

E-TEC

[cfieldbasser]

WOT oughta be flying with that 200XP!!

[SEAHORSE]

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Your first sentence in your post here raised the red flags. That is the kind of attitude we see in other websites, and that is why we were very suspect of you in the beginning. Stick around, you may even get to like us, learn a few things, and have a bit of fun. This site will grow on you, something like various species of algae.

There ain't no sheep around here, everyone is "good folks" (well, maybe Rusty and CM might be a bit particular) and we all help each other. One thing this site has that others do not is the "juice" we have to get the factory to notice someone's problem and many times we help get it taken care of.

Since the Internet is full of untruths or "one sided stories" we get to the bottom of them and help the person out. Tell your "friend" to stop by here or at least call BRP customer service about his plug problems. He is better off finding a compentent dealer who can take care of any warranty problems and who has the latest in special equipment, training, and service bulletins. There have been 2 already concerning spark plug life.

From what I hear it may be a few more weeks before you get your new 200's. They are producing the 150's right now and the 175's shortly. Are you having an authorized dealer rig them or are you doing it yourself?

Feel free to use the website's search function to find out about E-TEC owners and info that has already been posted here over the years.