Stop and Go!

[Sick Cat]

I put a new Ignition Module on a 97 Ficht 150. It fired right up. Started out between 1500 and 2500 rpm. for a few min. Got to 3000 and it was like 3000 stop 2900 go. Never lost power. Idle and started like new. What's up?
MOD. 150 ILEUC
SER. GO 4283435

[Sick Cat]

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[SEAHORSE]

Why did you replace the pack in the first place? Was the electric eye replaced with it, as recommended?

Have you determined that it is not a fuel delivery problem?

[Sick Cat]

It was hooked up at a dealer and they told me that was what was wrong with it. After I replaced it I had the problem as mentioned above and called the dealer and they told me it could be fuel but the high speed stator kicks in at about 3000 rpm. I have checked fuel lines. Was looking for a second oppinion about stator and possible price. I want to do the work if I can. Eye not replaced.

[SEAHORSE]

Damn, I screwed up and gave you incorrect information. I was thinking carbed motor, not FICHT for some reason. Most likely my morning caffeine had not kicked in yet.

A '97 FICHT has both an ignition module (very expensive) and an ECU that controls timing and ignition. There is also a possibility that the 24 volt system is not working correctly, often the fault of the power distribution panel.

It is best to find a trained FICHT tech with fuel pressure gauges, a fuel vacuum gauge, a laptop with diagnostic software, service manual, and the knowledge of how a FICHT operates. Good luck.

[Bassmeister]

FINALLY I GET TO SAY IT!!!! SMACK!!!

[DoferGofer]

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Hee, hee, hee, snicker, snicker. What goes around, comes around.

[SEAHORSE]

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You have to understand that there is a difference between lack of knowledge and lack of caffeine, especially early in the morning for old farts like me and Melvin (A persnickety old man)

[ChampioNman]

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You have to understand that there is a difference between lack of knowledge and lack of caffeine, especially early in the morning for old farts like me and Melvin (A persnickety old man)
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More like late night cocktails than early morning Joe!

[Sick Cat]

I was afraid you might say that. Is there a stator and a high speed stator or is there just one?............. I need a shop manual.

[Bassmeister]

I gotz tha oldsheimer too a little bit, 'course I never did claim to have the knowlege of the crusty old SeaHorse or the persnickerty old man!!
Sick Cat, there is only one stator.

[SEAHORSE]

There are 3 separate windings on the stator, all of them are switched to a series circuit by the EMM when starting and at low speed. The EMM then electrically switches them to a parallel circuit for more amperage as the motor accelerates.

[DoferGofer]

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More like late night cocktails than early morning Joe! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Late night cocktail, hmmmn, I resemble that remark!

[MigAz]

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More like DONKEY PUNCHED! Gil will be all over this one.

[Bassmeister]

Gil couldn't scratch the azz of any of these guys!!!

[DoferGofer]

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Or make a pimple on either one of their arses.

[ChampioNman]

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There are 3 separate windings on the stator, all of them are switched to a series circuit by the EMM when starting and at low speed. The EMM then electrically switches them to a parallel circuit for more amperage as the motor accelerates.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not knowing all does that pertain to an ECU system as well? Good info.

[MigAz]

You got that right, Mike! The Mods know their stuff!!!

[SEAHORSE]

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Not knowing all does that pertain to an ECU system as well?

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I better elaborate a bit, the '97 and '98 FICHTS have a 2 stage - 3 phase charging system with their multi-wound stators. Those motors run 12 and 24 volt systems thru separate circuits on the external regulator/rectifier. It gets confusing with all the model year changes, then the mid-year changes, then the design changes to make a generalized statement. The EMM models, including E-TEC, have everything regulated, rectified, and switched inside the EMM.

[Sick Cat]

How much and what is a EMM?