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    Having previously been a MLF boat official, which included a 3 day training course, MLF takes safety to the ultimate limit. Including, but not limited to the anglers mandatory meeting before each and every event. The entire operation is blanketed with attorneys and trust me, besides running a fishing event and TV show, they take safety to the max. It was predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow, that the attorneys involved would go after the deep pocket. The accident was an absolute tragedy, and unfortunate. Of course I read the attorney typical statement about the need to improve safety, but make no mistake about it… it’s the money. But I can reassure the readers here, if the management at MLF believe they can improve safety, they won’t hesitate to implement changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB134 View Post
    Having previously been a MLF boat official, which included a 3 day training course, MLF takes safety to the ultimate limit. Including, but not limited to the anglers mandatory meeting before each and every event. The entire operation is blanketed with attorneys and trust me, besides running a fishing event and TV show, they take safety to the max. It was predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow, that the attorneys involved would go after the deep pocket. The accident was an absolute tragedy, and unfortunate. Of course I read the attorney typical statement about the need to improve safety, but make no mistake about it… it’s the money. But I can reassure the readers here, if the management at MLF believe they can improve safety, they won’t hesitate to implement changes.
    Define "previously"... as in, one of the real boat offficials that MLF employed in an full time all season manner in previous years, or more recently one of the fans that rode along and weighed fish at individual events, similar to the BASS marshal program. Not throwing shade on either option, just curious if the "one event" guys are getting the 3 day training, or if that was prior to them making the change away from the full time officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB134 View Post
    Having previously been a MLF boat official, which included a 3 day training course, MLF takes safety to the ultimate limit. Including, but not limited to the anglers mandatory meeting before each and every event. The entire operation is blanketed with attorneys and trust me, besides running a fishing event and TV show, they take safety to the max. It was predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow, that the attorneys involved would go after the deep pocket. The accident was an absolute tragedy, and unfortunate. Of course I read the attorney typical statement about the need to improve safety, but make no mistake about it… it’s the money. But I can reassure the readers here, if the management at MLF believe they can improve safety, they won’t hesitate to implement changes.
    Wonder if Flint got the 3 day course on boater safety . What changes to improve safety will MLF implement .

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspired fisherman View Post
    Wonder if Flint got the 3 day course on boater safety . What changes to improve safety will MLF implement .
    It’s going to be very hard to prove MLF or any tournament organization should be required to impose stricter safety protocols than the state requires.

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    Everyone knew they would sue MLF and anybody use they could.


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    That is chicken shit to go after a party that is simply not at fault here.
    "The picture of the world that's presented to the public has only the remotest relation to reality"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transom View Post
    That is chicken shit to go after a party that is simply not at fault here.
    Unless some bombshell is revealed MLF will be dropped by a judge.

    Lawyers can file a suit against anyone, proving fault will be the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transom View Post
    That is chicken shit to go after a party that is simply not at fault here.
    Yea this could have happened in a tournament or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transom View Post
    That is chicken shit to go after a party that is simply not at fault here.
    All About $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    If professionals who's careers depend on catching fish use FFS then that's what I'm using. Might be too simple of a philosophy but makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LateralLine View Post
    All About $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    This is the sad truth, they just want some money from whoever they can get it from, even though they know money want being back their loved ones, they want it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by townsend266 View Post
    This is the sad truth, they just want some money from whoever they can get it from, even though they know money want being back their loved ones, they want it anyway.
    What would you do ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by townsend266 View Post
    This is the sad truth, they just want some money from whoever they can get it from, even though they know money want being back their loved ones, they want it anyway.
    No, money can’t bring anyone back but that’s what our legal system has determined as recompense for over a thousand years since the old Anglo-Saxon system of weregild. And it can make up for the loss of income and everything else. That family is going to be hurting and not just emotionally.

    SOP to name everyone and let the case work itself out. MLF has an indemnity agreement with the boater so they’ll tender their defense to him/his carrier and the case will likely settle for whatever his policy limits are, MLF’s carrier may throw in some money to help make it go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2theblue View Post
    No, money can’t bring anyone back but that’s what our legal system has determined as recompense for over a thousand years since the old Anglo-Saxon system of weregild. And it can make up for the loss of income and everything else. That family is going to be hurting and not just emotionally.

    SOP to name everyone and let the case work itself out. MLF has an indemnity agreement with the boater so they’ll tender their defense to him/his carrier and the case will likely settle for whatever his policy limits are, MLF’s carrier may throw in some money to help make it go away.
    Having lived this 42 years ago when my dad was killed by a drunk semi truck steering wheel holder, I can tell everyone that trying to put a dollar amount on a loved ones life is ONE HELL OF A THING TO TRY TO DO !

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    Quote Originally Posted by LateralLine View Post
    All About $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    When your family members are dead, money is the only compensation available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transom View Post
    That is chicken shit to go after a party that is simply not at fault here.
    Empathy is putting yourself in someone else shoes . What would you do ? . Nothing . A bass tournament pro angler just ran into a boat and killed some of your family . Now please tell me what would you do ? You are giving an opinion that MLF is not at fault here . How do you know . Are they 100 % not at fault or 50% not at fault or 0% not at fault . Alabama is a 1% negligence state . So if your in an accident and deemed just 1% contributory at fault . The other party is 99 % at fault . You get Nothing . So your opinion means absolutely nothing to the Law .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksuchris2000 View Post
    Good friend of mine's 2 twin boys were killed in Tx by a sleeping semi driver. The boys were parked at a rest stop and the semi (sleeping driver) plowed through the boys' car killing both of them. The semi driver was an owner operator and couldn't come up with two nickels to rub together. Everyone got sued. The trucker, the truckers insurance, the shipper, the shippers insurance, the consignee, the consignees insurance, the contractor that maintained and ran the rest stop, etc. In this case, basically all defendants ended up settling the case for some non zero amount. Some small, some large. No amount was consolation for the loss of these boys to their family.
    That is f'n messed up. How the hell was the shipper, consignee, and contractor running the rest stop responsible in any way? I can brainstorm some scenarios that the contractor running the rest stop could bear some responsibility if there were some contributing factors that were in fact their responsibility but the likelihood of that being the case is not very high. The operator/owner is clearly at fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by inspired fisherman View Post
    What would you do ? . Nothing . A bass tournament pro angler just ran into a boat and killed some of your family . Now please tell me what would you do ? You are giving an opinion that MLF is not at fault here . How do you know .
    Not much you can do other than make sure that a prosecutor pursues charges against the person who actually caused the deaths.

    I can see filing a suit against that individual and/or whatever party covers his liability but then again what good does that do?

    If a prosecutor failed to press charges against the guy that killed them I would probably be tempted to take things into my own hands to get retribution but would probably end up not doing anything for the obvious reasons even though I imagine I would be very tempted.

    What I would not for damn sure do is implicate innocent parties.

    The manufacturer of the boat is not at fault.
    The proprietor of the launch ramp is not at fault.
    The organization running the tournament is not at fault.
    The other tournament participants are not at fault.
    The guy who owns the shoreline nearest where the incident happened is not at fault.
    I can go on and on and name every human on this planet and every organization on the planet..........guess what they are not at fault here.
    Guess who is at fault? How about the guy that ran over and killed the victims.

    I cannot believe how many want to go after innocent parties. No wonder so many innocent folks end up in prison.

    I'm out I am not going to waste any more give a shit over this.
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    How much personal restraint could you show if some fancy pants speed demon killed a few of your family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFishSteve View Post
    How much personal restraint could you show if some fancy pants speed demon killed a few of your family?
    I wanted to ask him the same question there is no need to refer to a grieving family’s actions that way.
    Last edited by Hoot; 05-25-2025 at 07:09 AM.

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    I’d go after the responsible parties. Nobody else.

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