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    Gravity….

    Spinning off of the other thread, I am interested in what we know about gravity. I know God created gravity because without it, coffee would not stay in the cup! Gravity absolutely boggles my mind and I would like to know if anyone has heard a reasonable scientific explanation for how gravity is created. I understand that the amount of gravity is proportional to the mass of the object, but why?

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    When reading the very first chapter of Genesis, I believe that God created gravity in the very separation of the firmament and the creation earth and waters. In my opinion, the creation of gravity happens in Genesis 1: 4-10

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    Frank, I believe God created gravity on or before the time He created the solar system. The sun as well as the stars and planets are all effected by gravity.

    I honestly do not know when or how gravity came into being but believe it is was before the earth was formed.

    Not being an astrologist or scientist my statement is not supported by any proof that I can point to. Nothing more than an opinion.

    This should be an interesting topic and I am looking forward to following it.
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    Gary,
    I agree that God created gravity when he created the universe and the entire stellar system as we know it at this time, but I thought we were discussing it in reference to the bible as we know it starting with Genesis.
    I believe that no matter how we look at it, in my opinion, it will be a WAG at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digthemup View Post
    Gary,
    I agree that God created gravity when he created the universe and the entire stellar system as we know it at this time, but I thought we were discussing it in reference to the bible as we know it starting with Genesis.
    I believe that no matter how we look at it, in my opinion, it will be a WAG at best.
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    I am just wondering if anyone has heard any plausible scientific explanation as to how gravity is created. Again, I know that go made it, but can we explain how it works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titanxt View Post
    I am just wondering if anyone has heard any plausible scientific explanation as to how gravity is created. Again, I know that go made it, but can we explain how it works?
    Gravity. Everything in the universe has gravity. Everything attracts everything else. The bigger and denser the "thing" the more gravity it makes. The planet Earth is really big thence it attracts coffee, you and everything else like rain. Gravity even can attract light beams. Gravity from our moon, appropriately named Moon, causes tides throughout the world. When we launch space ships we use the attraction or gravity of other planets or moons to help them on their way or to help steer them or even act like a slingshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titanxt View Post
    I am just wondering if anyone has heard any plausible scientific explanation as to how gravity is created. Again, I know that go made it, but can we explain how it works?
    I looked through google and youtube a few times over the last couple of days to see what could be found. It seems that there are some ideas of how it works, but not too much on why it works or where it came from. There is some newer theory about gravitons (but no proof that they exist) that try somewhat to say why (to me, it is still a how) it works.
    I watched a video by Neil deGrasse Tyson where at one point he said, "isn't it enough that we know how it works". It sounded like he has given up trying to find why it works or where it came from. Buy he doesn't look for God ways.
    If I google "Gravity and the Bible", or similar searches, I don't get anything clearly defining it.

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    Side note: Try DuckDuckGo or a search engine other than Google. I bailed from Google a while ago and was surprised at what information gets censored. Not sure what is out there on gravity, but Google isn’t always Christian friendly…

    I saw the same video with Neil. Gravity is something we can measure, feel and partially understand, but we cannot begin to explain why gravity is associated with mass. I wonder if we were shot out into space if we would produce gravity in proportion to the mass of our bodies?

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    Jesus defied gravity by walking on water and ascending up to Heaven. And there were one or two in the old testament that went up.
    Jesus said if we had the faith of a mustard seed, we could tell a mountain to move. That would take a gravity defying feat.

    S.P.- As couple after thoughts (one leads to others). The mustard seed is very tiny and some people think he was talking about just a little faith. I think he was talking about the strength of the seeds faith. Which is tremendous and they never fail to grow into the proper plant. Everything (along with the mustard seed) has a Godly energy we usually can't see. I saw it once while being filled by/with the Holy Spirit. Because of that, I also have a different take on Jesus saying the "the stones would cry out" than most. There is no doubt that Jesus knew and saw this to (he created it), so I can see him making comments like this. He may have been giggling inside, thinking, if you only knew.

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    Wonderful statement of faith in our Lord and in the power of the Holy Spirit.

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    When I hear the term "gravity", immediately, Sir Issac Newton pops into my head. Of course he named it (he did not invent it) and from there we get the Laws of Gravity (one of many natural laws). Jumping down the rabbit hole, gravity must be linked with mathematics, leading into the Laws of Mathematics. Being we have laws such as these it would have to come from a "Law Giver", because laws do not make themselves. It would then lead me to believe these laws come from the very mind of God. At what point did God step back and let the "natural laws" run there course I could not say. I would say that it was at some point in the first six days of creation because then it was completed. I think you could have good arguments all day on the subject, but the creation of the sun and stars on the 4th day would have massive gravitational affects on the earth, planets, solar system, and universe. Fantastic question and what a way to look at the mind of God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KT978 View Post
    When I hear the term "gravity", immediately, Sir Issac Newton pops into my head. Of course he named it (he did not invent it) and from there we get the Laws of Gravity (one of many natural laws). Jumping down the rabbit hole, gravity must be linked with mathematics, leading into the Laws of Mathematics. Being we have laws such as these it would have to come from a "Law Giver", because laws do not make themselves. It would then lead me to believe these laws come from the very mind of God. At what point did God step back and let the "natural laws" run there course I could not say. I would say that it was at some point in the first six days of creation because then it was completed. I think you could have good arguments all day on the subject, but the creation of the sun and stars on the 4th day would have massive gravitational affects on the earth, planets, solar system, and universe. Fantastic question and what a way to look at the mind of God!
    Laws don't 'come' from anything. They are describing the way the world/universe work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rds_nc View Post
    Laws don't 'come' from anything. They are describing the way the world/universe work.
    I believe that Sir Isaac Newton would disagree with your statement.
    BTW, are you saying that gravity is self created??

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    The laws are describing what is. What is had to come from something. Stephen Hawking's made the statement "Because there are laws such as gravity the universe can create itself from nothing". I can't even imagine nothing, if I try explaining nothingness it is still something. It has never been disproven that something always comes from something. For nothing to create something would be quite the miracle, but you would need a miracle worker. You see, I'm not just sitting back and saying God did it, I want to investigate and see just how God did it. His creation and the scriptures give me insight to the mind of God and it amazes me just how orderly it all had to be and is. John Lennox puts it much more elegantly than I, and does a fantastic job describing his opinions.

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    Great responses! All of this really deep thought brings me back to the original question of how is gravity produced? The only answer is we do not know and it points back to the glory of God as illustrated by His creation.dddd

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    Quote Originally Posted by titanxt View Post
    Great responses! All of this really deep thought brings me back to the original question of how is gravity produced? The only answer is we do not know and it points back to the glory of God as illustrated by His creation.dddd
    I feel like that’s more of a ‘god of the gaps’ theory.
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    "God of the Gap" theory in practice is to place God in areas where our own scientific understanding falls short. Giving God credit for ALL of creation is not placing Him in convenient gaps of our understanding. Any gap created by our lack of understanding does not negate any aspect of His creation. If it were ever possible for all of the gaps to be filled with human knowledge and understanding, God would still be the answer.
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    ^^^^^^ A+

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