Why would an MLF pro want to come back to BASS ?

[mohawkman]

Just an observation, this past event up on the St. Lawrence River a good friend of mine was there fishing as they were....

This is my point...

In a BASS or other typical national tournament, the pros needs to make decisions on how far they are going to run in rough water conditions and in lock-related conditions..... run very rough water to get back in time for the weigh-in... and often that aspect of the tournament causes some pros to drop out of the top finishers.

What I heard is that the MLF Pros.... they all launch out of a launch that is near the 'area' that they are going to film... and then all the anglers get to go and run to where they want to start.. and they give them PLENTY of time to get there..... then between periods they have ample time to slowly return to ramp, get things fixed, have lunch with their wife.....

Then on a separate topic.... these pros were sitting with spot lock on very strong current spots and just dropping and redropping their baits and catching fish... no skill at boat control at all.

The spotlock brings everyone to that level but my point is that BASS brings other factors into tournament decisions and strategy that MLF kind of takes out like a senior golf tournament might allow carts and not walking to each hole.

Seems a lot boojier at MLF where the BASS and other circuits need to make it there/back and run for their fishing. I would never go back if i was on MLF personally.

[Ckfishin]

And here we go again.

[Ckfishin]

I guess http://www.bbcboards.net/showthread.php?t=1149326 wasn't new enough to put an opinion we needed another one? lol

[magfluker]

I don't know that using the SLR is a good example of difference as MLF was there during the spawn, they didn't really have to move and fish were not in the current.

It is stated they only get 30 minutes of run time prior to Line's in, when they went to St Clair, Dudley ran to Erie and lost fishing time. They get 15 minutes of breaks between periods but their boat cannot move during that time. Sorry, none get to eat lunch with their wives.

[dartag1829]

You do realize Bass is a Tournament and MLF is an event filming a TV show. No real comparison.

MLF allows the anglers to trailer to a location. Watch Ott Defoe's Youtube channel. He explains they have to go through check in then put it on the trailer and drive to another location. Guys that just fished St Clair did the same thing driving from St Clair down to the lower Detroit River. The event starts and they lose time driving after the 30 minute run time expores.

[posmallie]

I would think that the break between periods may mess someone up if they manage to fire up a school of fish and then have to suddenly stop for 15 minutes. I imagine KVD would not have won this year if a period ended during the middle of his flurry of action.

I also think that travel expenses are greater with BPT because all of the days off make the tournaments several days longer which makes it more expensive. Anyone who does not have a lot of money may find this to be cost prohibitive. Having days off between days of fishing could also hurt guys, because they are not on the water to constantly be making adjustments to weather, current etc...

Knowing how to run rough water could actually be a benefit as well. Look at the Johnston brothers and Scott Dobson. Those guys are willing to take big water risks because they're very confident in their abilities. This shows when those tours visit big water. If guys could trailer to any launch they want, the big water fishermen may lose that advantage.

I'm not a BPT hater, and actually have a lot more respect for the tour after watching the St. Clair/Erie event last month. But, with every advantage you find with a tournament series, you can find disadvantages. The advantages can also differ form tournament to tournament and day to day. Who are we to judge a pro for which tour they choose to fish?

[Hoot]

Guess it's about time to kick this one around again as winter is approaching since no Tour has a Guaranteed Salary of Appearance Fees for just showing up, No Company Funded Retirement Plans, No Company paid Health Insurance one has to go where they can hopefully produce the most income and be happy.

There is no magical guarantee that moving from one tour to another is going to provide an instantaneous financial windfall.

[IBHUFFY]

[Mcjenson]

Honestly if I was a pro BPT seems like a no brainer. Especially if they are going back to no entry fees, the risk reward is way better on the BPT. The only thing bass has over it is format, the classic, and maybe sponsor preference.

that said as a fan, really only follow bass.

[smbass77]

There is much more to consider for a Pro which league to fish than just running to a spot or trailering to a spot. We aren't seeing BASS anglers leaving for MLF but we are seeing a number of angler leaving MLF for BASS. Perhaps it's because of more exposure in BASS with Bassmaster magazine, BASS Times, live TV coverage on FS1 and FOX, and a larger fanbase.

I heard from an angler I know on BPT that they ARE paying entry fees with the promise they will get that money back as MLF/FLW gets cash flow in from the higher fees from things like the BFL Regionals. I'm not sure that would give me a warm fuzzy feeling on the financial footing of MLF is I was one of their anglers.

Plus BASS has the Classic and MLF has yet to have their Redbreast with an expo.

[rb]

bpt is lying duckett. No thanks

[west_tn]

Honestly if I was a pro BPT seems like a no brainer. Especially if they are going back to no entry fees, the risk reward is way better on the BPT. The only thing bass has over it is format, the classic, and maybe sponsor preference.

that said as a fan, really only follow bass.

If it was a No Brainer no one would have left.

[Mark Perry]

The Bassmaster Classic

[Mcjenson]

If it was a No Brainer no one would have left.

Seems like most of the guys who have left were top 10% anglers who likely are fine with sponsor money and don’t need to weigh the entry fee vs payout equation as much. That said, if BPT is requiring entry fees again that’s a big red flag.

[rb]

Straight from Jacob Powroznik
https://www.bassmaster.com/jacob-pow...ng-without-net
Back in February I was at the other circuit’s championship. I knew right then that I had to make a change. It was like I was fishing a Tuesday night tournament at a local lake. There just wasn’t anything happening other than the fishing. Disappointing isn’t a strong enough word to describe it.
A Bassmaster Classic is an event in and of itself — forget the fishing. There are get-togethers, parties, fans all over the place and thousands of people walking through the Expo. You can’t go anywhere without being surrounded by fans of the sport. Something is happening every minute. There was none of that in February. I’ve fished five Classics. Each one was an experience I wouldn’t trade for anything. I can’t say that about last February.

[west_tn]

Seems like most of the guys who have left were top 10% anglers who likely are fine with sponsor money and don’t need to weigh the entry fee vs payout equation as much. That said, if BPT is requiring entry fees again that’s a big red flag.

I will be very surprised if they go back to no entry fees.

[Philly]

[QUOTE=smbass77;12128239[B]]There is much more to consider for a Pro which league to fish than just running to a spot or trailering to a spot.[/B] We aren't seeing BASS anglers leaving for MLF but we are seeing a number of angler leaving MLF for BASS...


C'mon man...Maiking long runs and the opportunity to have a sitdown lunch with your wife in the middle of a tournament are MAJOR considerations from the typical BBC geezerwanker's perspective. The only thing that could make it better would be if Buick started making tow vehicles and became a Title Sponsor.....oh yeah, they could also load up the boats after 3 hours of fish'n and make the final 5 hours the "Boat Wiping" portion of the competition where the guys with the fewest rips in their boat seats and the fewest stains in their carpet could win some hella cool swag like puffy white velcro shoes and those big black plastic sunglasses that fit over the top of your regular glasses!!

[madmurph]

And here we go again.

There have only been a few in the last week.

[Screamin_Reel]

Straight from Jacob Powroznik
https://www.bassmaster.com/jacob-pow...ng-without-net
Back in February I was at the other circuit’s championship. I knew right then that I had to make a change. It was like I was fishing a Tuesday night tournament at a local lake. There just wasn’t anything happening other than the fishing. Disappointing isn’t a strong enough word to describe it.
A Bassmaster Classic is an event in and of itself — forget the fishing. There are get-togethers, parties, fans all over the place and thousands of people walking through the Expo. You can’t go anywhere without being surrounded by fans of the sport. Something is happening every minute. There was none of that in February. I’ve fished five Classics. Each one was an experience I wouldn’t trade for anything. I can’t say that about last February.

OUCH...

[Jfish]

Jpow might be the exception, however, most are looking at it from the monetary standpoint and least amount of stress. BPT must have a pretty good combination of those two things right now or else you would be seeing a mass exodus. It is interesting that many talk about Duckett but I believe that Gary Klein was also a major player in the split and even tried to get many of his fellow competitors to boycott the classic years ago and demand better payouts, etc.