Red Bull - Seriously??

[brnzbaklvr]

I know a family that makes about 3 times what I do and uses the EBT cards......I am talking mid 6 figures....People have turned them in but they just transfer the card to another family member....

If the Government would clamp down on the fraudulant use of these benefits there would be more than enough money out there for those that really need it.....

EBT cards should be illegal to use in Party stores and quick marts....

[Musky_Stalker]

Well, from my own experience a few years ago when I was between losing my job and starting my business, the EBT card saved my families a$$. I don't know about where you live, but in IL it was extremely hard to get, I had to give an enormous amount on personal and financial info, and you have to open your home to constant and random visits by DCFS. It was an incredible pain but we were grateful for it. Once I was asked if I felt bad taking the government money. I said heck no, this is MY MONEY. I paid taxes into the system for 20 years, so this was just a little pay back. I was glad to get off of it though but I know one thing: I will never pass judgment on others for taking assistance because you never know their real story. Just because I was driving an Expedition and wearing a suit does not mean I have money. Maybe that suit and car was 10 years old!

[blake711]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by hunt22-250 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Be fine if it would give them enough energy to get a job. </td></tr></table>

[09-20i]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by hunt22-250 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Be fine if it would give them enough energy to get a job. </td></tr></table>

Best post EVER!!

[Elite Fishing]

I am very glad that you got good use out of the system the way it is supposed to be done. I dont think anyone on this board would complain about a person that was down to get government assistance and then continually trying to improve themselves by looking for a job or a better job. The problem is when families make government assistance a way of life. When kids grow up in homes that no one works and the money comes in for free do you think those kids are going to have the character built into them to go out and make an honest living? I doubt it. Bottom line is it should be a limited time program and not a way of life.

[local16]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by fishin Charlie &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I am very glad that you got good use out of the system the way it is supposed to be done. I dont think anyone on this board would complain about a person that was down to get government assistance and then continually trying to improve themselves by looking for a job or a better job. The problem is when families make government assistance a way of life. When kids grow up in homes that no one works and the money comes in for free do you think those kids are going to have the character built into them to go out and make an honest living? I doubt it. Bottom line is it should be a limited time program and not a way of life. </td></tr></table>
I also don't think anyone on this board would condone the abuse of this assistance. The abuse is the problem and not the program. Better enforcement should be a priority. I also am amazed at some people's ability to determine a person's eligibility just by their looks..
Muskystalker, thanks for sharing your experience

[bloodman]

There is something F'd in this country!!!!!

[Bug Bunny]

EBT does not always mean welfare. My wife had an EBT card for her state mandated child support. Only way she ever got a dime!!! Not saying that's always the case, but there are exceptions to the rule!!!! But there were no restrictions on where we could use it at all or what we could buy!! I'm sure there were some ribeyes and bourbon bought with it!!

[KLAKE]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Musky_Stalker &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Well, from my own experience a few years ago when I was between losing my job and starting my business, the EBT card saved my families a$$. I don't know about where you live, but in IL it was extremely hard to get, I had to give an enormous amount on personal and financial info, and you have to open your home to constant and random visits by DCFS. It was an incredible pain but we were grateful for it. Once I was asked if I felt bad taking the government money. I said heck no, this is MY MONEY. I paid taxes into the system for 20 years, so this was just a little pay back. I was glad to get off of it though but I know one thing: I will never pass judgment on others for taking assistance because you never know their real story. Just because I was driving an Expedition and wearing a suit does not mean I have money. Maybe that suit and car was 10 years old! </td></tr></table>

When I met my wife she had one too.....She was HARDLY making bank by any means. She still worked, payed rent, paid daycare etc.

The process of getting, and keeping it is mortifying for ANYONE with any pride.

I honestly don't know how some people play the system. She was constantly getting re-evaluated etc.
As soon as I knew I really loved her/we were getting serious I helped her out so she didn't have to deal with it anymore.

And you sure as hell can't stereotype her either. She was a single mom, and is the furthest thing from trampy, and she sure as heck isn't lazy. Works, hard. In fact, she is the only one that does work, because she has a good job, and I'm going to school fulltime.

[paskeeter]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by basscat21 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Why shouldn't they enjoy the same freedoms you enjoy? </td></tr></table>

Really? Im in Afghanistan right now with a whole bunch of people protecting that so called freedom. I sure as hell hope its not so people on assistance can drink RedBull which by the way we pay over $3.00 a can for.

[bigfish]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by basscat21 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Why shouldn't they enjoy the same freedoms you enjoy? </td></tr></table>

I don't have that freedom, I'd get arrested for taking chit I didn't pay for,

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by mikepags &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I watched some lady buy like 10 bags of chips and 3-4 2 liters at a gas station the other day and pay with with an EBT card then she whips out a hundred and buys three packs of cigarettes and 5 scratch off tickets in a separate transaction </td></tr></table>

I have seen the same thing and my blood pressure is rising just thinking about it...

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by dan2173 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> </td></tr></table>

Its actually pathetic, not funny!! Gets me fired up just thinking about it...

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Cape Fear &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Every EBT card I have seen has the picture of the Ameican flag on them. What a hell of a way to represent our flag. Home of the free(give away). Don't get me started! </td></tr></table>

+1,000,000

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by fishin Charlie &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I am very glad that you got good use out of the system the way it is supposed to be done. I dont think anyone on this board would complain about a person that was down to get government assistance and then continually trying to improve themselves by looking for a job or a better job. The problem is when families make government assistance a way of life. When kids grow up in homes that no one works and the money comes in for free do you think those kids are going to have the character built into them to go out and make an honest living? I doubt it. Bottom line is it should be a limited time program and not a way of life. </td></tr></table>

Well said

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by paskeeter &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Really? Im in Afghanistan right now with a whole bunch of people protecting that so called freedom. I sure as hell hope its not so people on assistance can drink RedBull which by the way we pay over $3.00 a can for. </td></tr></table>

+1,000,000

[NC519VX]

GUYS-These are some of the EXACT reasons you and everyone you know needs to VOTE! If the current government continues to increase in size, continues to bury our economy in debt with all the Government funded programs, what do you all think will happen? We are headed to becoming a socialist country at a break neck speed. And if you think to much of your dollar is going to fund all this, you wait and see how much worse it gets if we as the American people don't rally to vote a real business man in office. The US Government is a business, and like all the rest of us business owners had to do, (myself included), control and reduce spending, or close the doors.

[champion191]

do away with ebit cards,,, ever town should have a food bank, with only the bare needs .
you take your card there and get your food, and
go cook it,

[22RangerZ520R]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by champion191 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">do away with ebit cards,,, ever town should have a food bank, with only the bare needs .
you take your card there and get your food, and
go cook it, </td></tr></table>

+1,000,000

The card should be for bare essentials: bread, eggs, milk, etc and not for Red Bulls, candy bars, mountain dew and now Burger King........

I'm all about helping people, but they need to help themselves first!

Its flat out rediculous that I pay taxes for that.....

[Try this]

You can only buy Monster drink by the Case , I seen that last night at Giant food stores ,

it kicked back two drinks , so the teller told the girl if you get it by the case ,food stamps will cover it,