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    Quote Originally Posted by Classicxl View Post
    Pay no attention to them. Early onset old timers runs rampant here.
    And you are how old?
    There's lots of decaffeinated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing.

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    ffs will play some just not near as much as some lakes. Look up the video Zaldain did with Forthergill after the pasquotank what some of these guys can do with FFS is amazing I thought I was getting good with it before the video, now I know I don't know crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwh View Post
    It amazes me the young men are called kids. 50 years ago 19 year old and up were commanding Armored Personnel Carriers in the jungles of Vietnam.They were men not kids. At 21 I was a Buck Sgt commanding a M60A1 Main combat tank with a 3 man crew.we were men not kids.

    I think they were kids but quickly became Men! At least from all the books I've read.
    If professionals who's careers depend on catching fish use FFS then that's what I'm using. Might be too simple of a philosophy but makes sense to me.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Rider99XX View Post
    And you are how old?
    Probably a little older than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classicxl View Post
    Probably a little older than you.
    Just wondering, need to keep an eye on that early onset old timers and keep it under control.
    There's lots of decaffeinated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing.

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    #46
    How do you know they aren't using their scope?
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    Yes, and with all of those young guys trying to become a professional angler there is still only a few hundred at most that can make a living fishing. You have a handful of organizations that can pay enough money and provide enough visibility to attract meaningful sponsors, and probably 5X as many guys trying to make it as they can handle. Manufacturer sponsorships are getting tougher and tougher to get because there are a very limited number of pros who can really move the needle for their products. I admire their effort and skills, but the odds of being a successful pro are about the same as any other sport whether it's football, racing, etc. Unless you hit the lottery a successful career is going to have to last you 30 years or more - the number of bass fishing pros who have been active and relevant for 30 years is very, very small.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Ski Tar View Post
    What I am saying is that that in the old days, a guy had to spend his time and money, once he reached the tour, level learning how to catch bass in all the different types of fisheries around the country. More often than not, he would run out of money before he got the experience to be really competitive on the array of fisheries he was having to compete on. Todays, young guys have already gone through that learning curve, fishing all over the country, in college before they fish their first open, much less their first tour level event. FSS is just something they have been given to more efficiently learn those different types of fisheries. Keep in mind that the tour level guys had the same access to FFS technology that the young guys had and they had that access coupled with their years of experience. The older tour level guys should be ahead of that curve but they're not. FFS is not giving these kids the knowledge, that took years to acquire, for the older guys. If anything, it is teaching them that a lot of the "knowledge" the old guys have is complete BS.
    In the old days you had to know how to read a map just to travel to an unknown place a few hours away. Now you can just plug the address into your phone of gps in your car. Don't let technology pass you by

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Ski Tar View Post
    All the talk, over the last few years, has been that the young guys on tour couldn't catch bass without FFS. Well, well, well it looks like the top 50 cut a the Sabine is going littered with those "SCOPERS" in a tournament where FFS is not a factor at all. I've been saying all along that these kids would still be at the top without scope and it turns out, that is in fact the case and let me tell you why!

    In the old days, a guy would find a good bit of success at the local level and then make a run at the Opens but still stay in his region. If he was good enough, in his region, he might get a shot at the top level. Once he was there, as a rookie on tour, it would take him a few years to learn how to catch bass outside of his region. He had to learn, herring fisheries, tidal fisheries, ledge fisheries, river run fisheries, northern smallmouth fisheries, shallow grass fisheries, Deep clear mountain fisheries, etc.. If he was fortunate enough to figure all this things out, well enough to be competitive, before he ran out of money, then he might make it as a tour level "PRO". He was going to struggle for a few years until he had "paid his dues".

    In todays world, these kids have been fishing on a highly competitive level since they were in junior high school. They fish 100+ boat tournaments starting in middle school. They move on to high school where they mostly fish locally but do move on to fish large scale high school events in a regional and national level. Then the best of those move on to fish in college where they are traveling all over the country fishing in 250+ boat events in every one of the types of fisheries mentioned above. The best of those move on to fish the opens where they are MUCH more prepared than the majority of their competitors. These kids show up at the opens with 4-5 years of national tour experience under their belt. And those 4-5 years of college fishing were spent going to class and fishing multiple days a week. Trust me when I say, these kids are VERY experienced and are really good at everything including FFS. Lets face it, everyone has FFS, so if FFS was such an easy thing to do, the entire field would be catching 30lb bags but that is simply not the case. These kids are really good with FFS because they had the time, on the water, to learn it, but trust me they learned a lot more than FFS with all those day on the water.

    Love it or hate it, bass fishing has become just like any other professional sport, in that, the only real path to the top goes through high school, then college participation. It is the only path that allows someone to acquire that level of experience, at a young age, for very little expense. The days of the working man making it to top, with or without FSS, are going to become a very rare thing. The old saying "stay in school" now applies to bass fishing.
    Nope , your wrong . Some would make it , but most would start to back up . When bass are on the bed the tournament is going to be won by a bed fisherman . It is how the big fish get caught . Your looking at them . NO other technique keeps up . FFS is the same thing . It is sight fishing on a screen . Your logic is flawed .

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    #50
    These threads sure do offer a lot of entertainment. There will never be a winner or loser with these arguments.

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    TL;DR

    That poor horse though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuck Grass View Post
    These threads sure do offer a lot of entertainment. There will never be a winner or loser with these arguments.
    The sad thing with discussions on BBC are the sarcastic replies. It’s okay to disagree with another persons opinion but to put anything in your reply that is disrespectful is not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwh View Post
    It amazes me the young men are called kids. 50 years ago 19 year old and up were commanding Armored Personnel Carriers in the jungles of Vietnam.They were men not kids. At 21 I was a Buck Sgt commanding a M60A1 Main combat tank with a 3 man crew.we were men not kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuck Grass View Post
    These threads sure do offer a lot of entertainment. There will never be a winner or loser with these arguments.
    There is never a winner or loser in any argument .

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspired fisherman View Post
    There is never a winner or loser in any argument .
    Not true.
    If professionals who's careers depend on catching fish use FFS then that's what I'm using. Might be too simple of a philosophy but makes sense to me.

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    I can't believe you consider that a lot of text. It's a few short paragraphs.
    Copilot is a great tool.

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    I don’t want to take away from any of the kids success at the high school level but my experience with that says the captain plays a huge role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassnpro1 View Post
    I can't believe you took the time to type all that
    Says the guy with 5700 more posts than him and he's been here longer than you.

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    “I was going to write a short, thoughtful post, but I didn’t have time, so I wrote a long post.”

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    How many scopers are in the top?
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