225 HO setting..

[etbasser]

Lots of post on this recently but still confused. How do you know if your motor has been changed from X100 setting to X50 sitting. I have an 2006 225HO that had the update a couple months ago, but the computer still had use X100, according to the dealer. Would the oil setting been changed with an update in June 07. Can anyone tell with the model/serial numbers or do I have to take it back to the dealer to know for sure. Have always used X100 oil. Model # E225DHLSD Ser # 05136486

[sandbar]

Your motor is showing no warranty claims.So there is no way to check your oil setting unless you have it plug in to a computer with the program on it....

[SEAHORSE]

The factory has NO way of knowing what setting your dealer may have changed it to.

The motors when new are set to TC-W3.

You will need to have someone with a laptop, cable, and diagnostic software check to see what your oil type setting is.

[DocDean]

Hi Guys,

I have been reading this board for a few monthes, but new to post.
I am at work and do not have my serial #s, but have a 2007 225 HO that I bought with approx 2 monthes use on it. I just brought it in for the update, after receiving the Sept. 21 dated certified letter. The motor has been GREAT so far

The tech stated that my motor was set on the TCW3 and He thought that it had been running on that setting. He suggested that we should leave it there.

My question: If the motor is automatically reset to TCW3 when the computer/software is hooked up, as I have been reading, then how does the Tech know or think that the motor was already running on TCW3 setting????

I hope this is the case, that I have been running on the richer setting all along, but can the Tech see in the history if the motor had been changed to the leaner setting. He did not seem as up to scale as you guys and was confused when I asked this question.

He just kept saying that your motor is set for TCW3 and he could change it if I wanted. Which I did not. I have always ran XD100 whatever the case.

I will post serial/model#s as soon as I get home

Thanks for your time and knowledge!!!

Dean
Ranger 620/ETEC 225HO

[gcmarshall]

I stand under correction, but in the diagnostic software, you can see whether the motor is operating under TC-W3 or XD-100 setting. I don't think you can see the history of what was used in the past.

[DocDean]

Thats my point, can the Tech know? Previous owner thought that my motor was reset to Leaner setting but now I'm not sure where it was at before this latest update. Does the software change this instantly to TCW3 when it is hooked up, or would the Tech have to do some keystrokes, or know what the setting was on the motor before the update was put in. Sorry to sound redundant but would really like to know if my Tech knows or is guessing thats where it WAS set.

Thanks again

Dean

[ARK Ranger]

My motor 2007 225 HO M #E225DHLSU SD #5175695
I got as notice back before August and carried motor in. Dealer did upgrade that we thought was temp. Warning change.
Got another notice on 9/21/07. Called BRP rep and he said that this was an additional software upgrade that effected oil injection ( but not TCW-3 setting). Carried it to dealer and he called BRP and they told him that the change That we did first was all that we needed to do. I'm running XD-100 and do not have any ideal what I'm set on or what BRP wants me to be set on.
Can I get some educated help.

[Bassmeister]

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I got as notice back before August and carried motor in. Dealer did upgrade that we thought was temp. Warning change.
Got another notice on 9/21/07. Called BRP rep and he said that this was an additional software upgrade that effected oil injection ( but not TCW-3 setting). Carried it to dealer and he called BRP and they told him that the change That we did first was all that we needed to do. I'm running XD-100 and do not have any ideal what I'm set on or what BRP wants me to be set on.
Can I get some educated help.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your model # says it's an HO so the setting should be TCW III and run the 100 oil.

[SEAHORSE]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DocDean &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats my point, can the Tech know? Does the software change this instantly to TCW3 when it is hooked up, or would the Tech have to do some keystrokes, or know what the setting was on the motor before the update was put in. </TD></TR></TABLE>


The setting is saved in the EMM until someone hits the appropriate keystrokes on the laptop to change the oil programming from TC-W3 to XD-100, or vice versa.

The diagnostic software always shows which oil type program is stored in the engine's memory, but nothing changes unless someone inputs a different setting.

[JoeKriz]

Seahorse,

I am confused about the new oil numbers and TC-W3

I see on the BRP website that they list 3 different XD Oils.

1. XD30
2. XD50
3. XD100

Are any of the above oils TC-W3?

BRP states that the XD30 oil "is formulated for water-cooled 2-cycle outboards and 2-cycle engines that specify TC-W3 certified oils."
Is this actually TC-W3 oil or is this something else?

Can you still buy TC-W3 oil?

[DocDean]

Thanks, SEAHORSE, thats the info that I was specifically looking for.
Rumor, has been floating around that the setting was changed automatically when the laptop was hooked up or update installed.

I can then believe my Tech that my engine was running the TCW3 setting since the beginning and had never been changed to the leaner XD100 setting.

Thats good news as I have been very happy with my engine's performance and shouldn't expect performance or oil usage to change now.

Thanks for all your help,

Dean

[etbasser]

So sounds like the update I had a few months ago would not have automatically changed the oil setting from the X100 to X50. Sure seems that BRP would have notified their Dealers or owners or both on what would be the recommended setting. Have received absolutely nothing from dealer or BRP so my guess is my motor is still running on X100 setting. Sure a pain to have to pull motor back to dealer to know for sure.

[ARK Ranger]

When my motor was installed it was set on XD-100. Can someone give me a software code or a code from BRP that I can show my Dealer, to allow him to talk to BRP and change my setting. According to my dealer he Did not change the setting when he did the temp warning upgrade Before August( he did call at this time and BRP told him not too). When we got the 9/21/07 notice last thursday my dealer called BRP and gave him the software download# ??? and the BRP man said that what we already had in there was the latest and greatest. If I do need to do a change to the TRw-3 ( XD 50) I need some real #'s to get this done. Hearsay is killing me. Or, does someone have a name and # of a person at BRP that I can call. All of the techs. that I get say that there is no order from BRP to change the setting. I need a # of some kind.

[ELGIN]

Im not Seahorse Joe but let me see if I can answer your question.

The XD-30 has a TWCIII rating, this means it can be used in any two cycle water cooled motor of any brand, the XD-50 and XD-100 do not have the TWCIII rating because they are not recommended in any other brand of motor, only Evinrude.

The NMMA (National Marine Manufacture Association) tests the oil and gives the certification, we now have TCWIIIRL which is the latest certification.

[ELGIN]

The update letter BRP sent out for the MODELS listed in the letter ONLY, this means not all motors were involved in the update, if you didnt receive a letter you dont need to change the oil setting.

When your tech down loaded the map he would have been prompted to set the oil selector to the TCWIII setting before he could load the map and chances are he did choose this option.

This ONLY APPLIES TO CUSTOMERS WHO RECEIVED A LETTER, Again, if you did not receive a letter you dont need to do anything to your motor.

[ARK Ranger]

I rec. two letters. One before august and one on 9/21/07. But my dealer and BRP still say I'm on Xd 100 setting.

[JoeKriz]

ELGIN,

Thanks...

I don't mean to take the thread away from the originator but this thread has talked about his settings for TC-W3 and changing it to XD100 only to find out that he is running XD50.. which Seahorse says is a TC-W3 setting.

So if XD50 and XD100 are not TC-W3, this is where I get confused.

I have a 1985 Evinrude 150....
If I should start my own thread, please let me know as I don't want to take away from this one.

I read in another post that ChampioNman recommended XD50 in a members 1993 Evinrude 140 which is pre System Check and of course definitely not an E-Tec.
http://www.bbcboards.net...22321

So if ChampioNman recommended this XD50 which is NOT TC-W3, from what you are saying, it will work in the older Evinrude engines only.....

[ELGIN]

It is easy to get confused with the options of oils available today, this is my rule of thumb for ALL Two Cycle Johnson Evinrude motors.


If you want the best oil you can get, run the XD-100, if you want the second best get the XD-50, and if you want the third best get the XD-30, if you choose the second or third you will need to decarb the motor once a year as these oils along with fuel can cause carbon build up.

[fishinski]

That's funny I have a 225 HO etec with the letter H&L in the seriel # and have not received a letter from BRP, should I take it into the dealer anyways to get the setting changed? Currently on the XD-100 setting since new in 2005. Please help???

[ELGIN]

The last three letters in the Model number is where you need to look.