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    1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM

    Hi guys,

    I was impressed at the expertise shown in some of the posts here at bbc. Though mine is a saltwater fishing boat, I hoped you might help to provide some suggestions to help debug my ailing motor.

    The problem is that the motor doesn't get up to the same RPM that it used to achieve.

    The low max rpm was observed immediately after I received the boat back from two back-to-back rounds of repairs by my authorized Johnson dealer. First, the boat refused to start and they fixed that by replacing ignition module. I got it back and ran for just a few minutes before the engine started to "load up", smoke and run very rough. I took it back and they replaced Lift pump, Ignition module, ECU and plugs. I had never had any problems with the motor before this. After the second repair the engine ran smooth and nice but never hits top speed.

    I know that I was getting 5400 rpm and 29mph (GPS) at WOT immediately before the above repairs because I had just gone through re-propping. There were no changes to boat weight or balance. Now I get 4200 rpm and about 22mph. In both of these cases the boat weight, balance and prop were the same, done in the same location and an average of upwind/downwind.

    I've checked for kinked fuel hoses and clogged fuel tank vent. All looks ok. I also squeezed the primer bulb while running WOT and it didn't make any difference to rpms.

    I also syphoned all the old fuel out of fuel tank and filled it up with fresh gas.

    I also checked the throttle cable - It seems to be opening up the throttle plates all the way open.

    I was having a little trouble with the Ficht Diagnostic Software (version 1.42) so I was unable to retrieve Service Codes.

    Other than the max rpm problem, the motor runs pretty good. Very smooth and quiet with no rough spots at any speed.

    Unfortunately, it's been a year since I got the boat back from the shop so I don't expect they'll be too receptive to my complaint. Since they already have all the repair money allotted to my boat for the next couple of years, I'm trying to debug part of this myself (with your kind help).

    I'm having trouble finding the model number and serial number stamped on the motor: I think those parts were cut off when the motor was mounted on the OMC Sea Drive Bracket. Here's the best information I could find.

    The ECU information screen on the diagnostic program reads as follows:
    Engine Model J150FSXEC
    Engine Serial 0
    ECU Serial 9740
    Software Version 3030000
    Software PCN 10768
    Engine Hours 661

    The ECU bears a sticker that reads as follows:
    P/N 778612
    S/N 3270401500
    Remanufactured

    The flywheel cover bears a sticker that reads as follows:
    Engine equipped with upgrade kit P/N 15000512 (this number difficult to read)
    use only OMC spark plug P/N 5000322 or equivalent

    If you know where on the engine I can get s/n and model # I'll gladly look it up.

    many thanks -- thornfish

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (thornfish)

    Welcome to the BBC.

    Have you checked the tach with the Diag software?

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (RUSTY63)

    Thanks for your reply.

    I checked the ECM RPMs and they match my tachometer.

    Also, I know that I'm not getting the speed on that water that I used to see.

    I'm setting up now so that I can put her in the water and have the laptop hooked up running the diagnostic software. Do you folks see any harm in that? I thought to do a cylinder drop test at speed.

    If the condition is caused by fuel starvation, am I risking engine damage by running too lean?

    thanks again -- dp

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (thornfish)

    Some additional info:

    I was able to read the Service Codes and there was a Hard 52 with the following additional info:
    LastEvent: 661 hrs CurrentHours: 661: Events: 72

    "Fuel injector #2 open load.

    Indicates poor connection to #2 injector. Clean fuses. If ok, check/clean electrical connection on injector. If ok, check/clean power distribution panel and ecu connections. if ok, check harness"

    My question about this is "What constitues an event?" Does it mean that the last 72 times I started the engine this problem has happened? It woud be about consistent with my past year of usage where I have had this low power/low max rpm problem.

    I ran the static test of the injector and heard it clicking clearly.

    thanks -- dp

    (P.S. - if it helps identify engine, I looked closely at the heads and I do have "pinned heads")

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (thornfish)

    I checked and cleaned all connections on the Fuel Injector circuits and reran the diagnostics. This time I got Intermittent rather than Hard error for the 52.

    I took the boat out for a spin and was thrilled to be back at 5400 rpm for 30.5 mph at WOT.

    Thanks to you all for the moral support.

    The diagnostic software was very difficult to use because it had trouble connecting to the ECU. It took about a hundred tries to get service codes and I was never able to run a cylinder drop test. Any suggestions for improving this?

    -- dp

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (thornfish)

    Sometimes when mine does this I will unhook the plug at the engine port and replug it, it will usually do it then.

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    Re: 1998 FICHT 150 - WOT limited to 4200 RPM (Bassmeister)

    Thanks. I was doing that and it sort of helped. I'm starting to think that maybe my diagnostic cable is bad (a cheap knockoff from ebay) or that there's trouble at the connector on the boat.

    thanks -- dp

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