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    Problem with tilt an trim gauge.....

    i just purchased a new gauge for my stratos an after fighting with it for a while i finally got it put in.....The gauge does nothing when i tilt the motor up an down...The gauge is brand new so i really wont think that would be the problem .....is there anything else I can check or does it have to be the gauge???? I' checked a couple different times that I had the right wires connected .....I do have power to it cause the back-light lcomes on....

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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (dflick22)

    Maybe the trim cam is broken. Do a search on this board from "trim cam", there's plenty of info and pictures.

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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (BuzzB8)

    Thanks for the reply buzzbb........i did some research on the internet but could not find anything on where the trim sender/cam is at....Could somebody please tell me where this is at.....i have a 06 250hpdi

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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (dflick22)

    This is from my EFI. Look at this piece (that the ruler is pointing to) and see if it rotates easily, or is cracked. I believe the '06 still used the plastic cam and the new and improved version is metal.

    When you trim up or down, that plastic cam should not move on the shaft.



    The plastic cam is on the left and is what a good one looks like. A good friend built the one on the right for his engine, then gave it to me (thanks Steve ).


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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (BuzzB8)

    Thanks BuzzBB for the detailed photos...i found it right away an mine is shotttt...lol

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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (dflick22)

    The new ones are a revised part and made from galvanized steel.
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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (mullamaster)

    Here is mine(installed)



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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (esfanderson)

    The issue I have with mine is the little post that the trim cam rides hits is broke.


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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (CStewart)

    When replacing the trim cam,how do you line up the new one so it reads correctly on the gauge?

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    TTT

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    Re: Problem with tilt an trim gauge..... (kensafishin)

    I sent you an IM, Ken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzB8 View Post
    This is from my EFI. Look at this piece (that the ruler is pointing to) and see if it rotates easily, or is cracked. I believe the '06 still used the plastic cam and the new and improved version is metal.

    When you trim up or down, that plastic cam should not move on the shaft.



    The plastic cam is on the left and is what a good one looks like. A good friend built the one on the right for his engine, then gave it to me (thanks Steve ).

    old post, but your buddy should sell those! I broke my plastic one today, but I had the newer galvanized one before, and although I can't remember why the plastic one worked better. I can't remember if the tab kept going by the sender or what. I had a couple of spares but of course now that I need them I can't remember where I put them. That one your friend made looks like it's bulletproof! I'd buy one if he was selling them for sure
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    Steve hasn't had a Yamaha for a couple years, so he probably doesn't have one left to sell, or give away. I still have a couple new, in the package, plastic ones, if you want one, let me know. I'd gladly send it to you as I'll never need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensafishin View Post
    When replacing the trim cam,how do you line up the new one so it reads correctly on the gauge?
    According to the shop manual, you hook an ohm meter on the two leads coming from the trim sending unit. With the motor trimmed all the way down adjust the cam to get a reading between 9-11 ohms on the meter. Its a pain in the butt as the cam moves as you tighten the screw to lock it down. Overall a poor design.

    Alternatively you can adjust the engine so it is just at the top of the trim rams; just before it goes to the tilt ram. Then adjust the cam so you just get a reading of full trim on the gauge.
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    Or, trim the motor to the full down position. Adjust the cam so that the gauge reads full down.

    Easier to get access to the trim cam with the motor down I find.

    Install the new trim cam made of steel. Keep the trim sender itself cleaned and lubricated and it will work well for quite a while.

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    I am not a bass boat guy so bear with me.

    I see that bass boats typically use far more trim than other types of boats. Are you guys able to trim to the point that the motor is just about to leave the trim regime and go into the tilt regime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzB8 View Post
    Steve hasn't had a Yamaha for a couple years, so he probably doesn't have one left to sell, or give away. I still have a couple new, in the package, plastic ones, if you want one, let me know. I'd gladly send it to you as I'll never need them.
    I wish I'd seen this yesterday! I just ordered 1 online for 20 bucks! They used to be 10. I've always had problems with the "updated" galvanized one. It seems when I trim my motor all the way up to put my (new style) transom saver in, the cam goes by the little arm. This doesn't happen with the plastic ones. I'd be happy to pay pal you a few bucks for the shipping/parts as it's always good to have some spares, and I appreciate the offer Jerry.

    As far as adjustment/install goes, there is an indent on the shaft, and a little bump inside the clamp of the sender. It should get adjustment pretty close, or at least it always has for me.
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    Jeff, I sent you a message. I'm sending you the last 3 plastic ones I have. That should cover another 3-6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzB8 View Post
    Jeff, I sent you a message. I'm sending you the last 3 plastic ones I have. That should cover another 3-6 years.

    Thanks a million Jerry…..extremely kind of you! Hope I can help you out down the road!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro1 View Post
    I am not a bass boat guy so bear with me.

    I see that bass boats typically use far more trim than other types of boats. Are you guys able to trim to the point that the motor is just about to leave the trim regime and go into the tilt regime?
    Yes depending on the prop and hull.

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