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    Unarmed war hero killed. Gunman was not arrested.

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    Sad world we live in when someone can murder another human being and nothing was done. The shooter going back to his car grabbing a weapon and shooting a unarmed man kinda says it all. Cj
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    This seems like a complete fail by the HPD. Wonder if there are more details not being released. It certainly can't be considered self defense.

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    That says a lot for Texas law enforcement. 3 weeks and no arrest come on.

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    This is sad on a lot of points. Today's culture, and it is Houston, sort of like a lot of cities.
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    More big city departments letting citizens down.

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    Expected this to be about a police shooting tbh

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    Assuming he was in fact murdered I would be wondering why nothing has been down the same as everyone else.

    However, that article simply talks about the veteran's background and gives us no details to ascertain what actually happened. I suspect that the shooter has not been arrested due to the facts of how everything went down.


    edit: After a bunch of ads went away I now see that the article does state some facts about what allegedly happened but because the video was obscured we really do not know what really happened at the critical moments.
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    Houston judicial system is notoriously slow. Huge case backlog. DA will get to it eventually.

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    The video doesn’t show the altercation, and the statement about what occurred comes from the victims family attorney. We have no idea what the shooter told law enforcement. Give them time to do a thorough investigation.

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    Sad story for sure.

    But we see it all the time on here with people bragging about carrying and are all to willing to say on public forums they’d pull theirs at the slightest inclination of an altercation.. whether it’s in a parking lot, on the water altercation, boat ramp, or someone accidentally walking into the wrong house with no ill intent. people openly admit they’d shoot without hesitation with the justification they need is the feeling of a threat.

    From just that article alone, it may be along the same lines. An altercation broke out, one party felt threatened enough to lethally defend themselves even if it may not have been justified. We don’t know both sides of the story.

    all we know is the outcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECobb91 View Post
    Sad story for sure.

    But we see it all the time on here with people bragging about carrying and are all to willing to say on public forums they’d pull theirs at the slightest inclination of an altercation.. whether it’s in a parking lot, or boat ramp.. people openly admit they’d shoot without hesitation. Pretty sure the last boat ramp altercation thread there was a number of folks saying that.

    some on here have even gone as far to say they’d shoot anyone trespassing on their property if they accidentally entered the wrong house and use the castle doctrine to justify it because they aren’t going to wait to see if they’re a threat or not. Even though the castle doctrine applies only if there is an immediate threat

    From just that article alone, it may be along the same lines. An altercation broke out, one party felt threatened enough to lethally defend themselves even if it may not have been justified. We there isn’t enough information in the article to know the other side
    Definitely some unbelievable chit goes on.

    Even this one seems like total BS of a defense, to me. Though I wasn't there and don't know what happened in either case. Both just seems weird from what I have learned of them both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 250bassFL View Post
    Definitely some unbelievable chit goes on.

    Even this one seems like total BS of a defense, to me. Though I wasn't there and don't know what happened in either case. Both just seems weird from what I have learned of them both.
    similar thing happened here too. A few cars were on the way to a friends party and took a wrong turn. Ended up pulling into a persons driveway and the homeowner came out with a shotgun. Fired two slug rounds and one killed a passenger. The homeowner came up with a few justifications: he thought his home was “under attack” and he was protecting his home and wife; the gun accidentally discharged two rounds, and it was hunters on the property at 940 at night not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 250bassFL View Post
    Definitely some unbelievable chit goes on.

    Even this one seems like total BS of a defense, to me. Though I wasn't there and don't know what happened in either case. Both just seems weird from what I have learned of them both.
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    Hopefully they 'get around to this' and incarcerate this SOB!! He should not get away with murder, which is what he has committed!!

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    I suspect the shooter is an off duty cop or something.

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    This doesn't sound right at all, after the guy shoots an unarmed man several times, the police take his gun and let him go? Outrageous

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    Don’t know the whole story. I will save judgment.

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    Not saying this is the case here, but what if you are carrying and someone is going to, or is, beating the crap out of you. Can a person claim they were afraid they would take their gun and kill then with it. Is that a legal defense, even though the person wasn't armed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GPtimes2 View Post
    Not saying this is the case here, but what if you are carrying and someone is going to, or is, beating the crap out of you. Can a person claim they were afraid they would take their gun and kill then with it. Is that a legal defense, even though the person wasn't armed?
    We have a pretty victim protecting “stand your ground” law here in Texas, but it doesn’t protect you if you provoked the altercation.

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