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    The Pizza Warning



    Wife and I ordered 1 large pizza with a few toppings from Dominoes and it was close to $25.00. I can see why people are cutting back or picking up or making their own pies.

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    Just what you wrote, I can see in almost every walk of life and this is before tariffs. I can't imagine what our formal inflation measures track. OK, gas is a good price. Bourbon prices have stabilized. After that, I am stretched to name anything else. Eggs, Coffee, and Chocolate are very expensive and only eggs are decreasing. These relate to shortages. Insurance prices, most meats, and eating out are more expensive by the quarter. For people with small budgets and big families, this is crushing and people have to cut back
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    I just got back from a meat run to buy a case of Sausages, price went up 23% from last purchase 6 weeks ago. I got a little loud and pulled up their website which still showed the old price, so they honored it because it was a "mistake" by the Web Manager. But they said the 23% rise is the new price. Also went to lunch with my Mom at Red Lobster last week, same exact order as 2 months ago, price is now 25% higher. This seems out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markson View Post
    I just got back from a meat run to buy a case of Sausages, price went up 23% from last purchase 6 weeks ago. I got a little loud and pulled up their website which still showed the old price, so they honored it because it was a "mistake" by the Web Manager. But they said the 23% rise is the new price. Also went to lunch with my Mom at Red Lobster last week, same exact order as 2 months ago, price is now 25% higher. This seems out of control.
    Yep. And people will respond by eating more at home and cutting back elsewhere. The American consumer is stretched about as far as they can go.

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    I thought things were supposed to get cheaper/better?

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    I was watching a podcast with some hunters/archery company owners and they were discucssing how the tariff bill is more than what they sell some of their products for. The funny thing is, these guys don't believe the tariffs will still be in effect by the time the shipment comes in. They're saying the tariffs would be so devastating to their and every other small business that theres no way the tariffs stick around. They believe that at any day now, the tariffs will be removed. And so does Wall Street.

    I have also seen discussion from trucking industry that the port traffic is gonna be about cut in half in a few days/weeks. And layoffs at trucking companies are starting
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    I was watching a podcast with some hunters/archery company owners and they were discucssing how the tariff bill is more than what they sell some of their products for. The funny thing is, these guys don't believe the tariffs will still be in effect by the time the shipment comes in. They're saying the tariffs would be so devastating to their and every other small business that theres no way the tariffs stick around. They believe that at any day now, the tariffs will be removed. And so does Wall Street.

    I have also seen discussion from trucking industry that the port traffic is gonna be about cut in half in a few days/weeks. And layoffs at trucking companies are starting
    If it's not canceled we are all f'd.

    Lots of stuff has gone up because of the tariffs, lots has gone up under cover of the tariffs (profit taking) and a crazy amount more will if the tariffs stick around.

    How is this good for anyone, even if we do make more socks?

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    Beef prices have been on a steady rise since 2014. The drought and increased environmental pressures have caused cattleman to cut herd numbers which will take years to recover. Prices for live cattle are so high it prevents increasing herd numbers.
    Chicken prices are high because of the swine flu which could have been curtailed had the vaccine been approved, but wasn't. Mandatory killings increase prices.

    Enter the Pizza price increase and consumers can't see spending $25 on bread and meat no matter how popular it is. It's been at least 4 or 5 years since prices at burger joints have risen tremendously due to beef price increases. I don't buy a $15 fast food burger meal when I can purchase a meal from a restaurant for $20. Yes it's more expensive but your getting a better meal.
    It's not like we haven't been here before, as prices increase consumers watch closely where they spend their money for the best value. People who have really never cooked before are now looking for ways to save via cooking their own meals.

    Insurance rates have almost doubled for no really sound reason. It's a must spend for anyone with a home and a mortgage. That has taken a huge amount out of the family's monthly budget. Combine with other increases it's forcing discretionary spending down.
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    Home and auto insurance costs make sense to me. New home build costs are insane and repair parts for an auto are insane. So insurance cost has to go up to cover it even if risks have not changed. The root question is what about home materials and auto parts has made them increases so much?

    one of my kids what scraped front tire to rear tire in 2024 not once but twice. one repair was $6k the other closer to $9k. No electronics or high tech repairs required. both required new doors and a fair amount of body work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsa View Post
    Home and auto insurance costs make sense to me. New home build costs are insane and repair parts for an auto are insane. So insurance cost has to go up to cover it even if risks have not changed. The root question is what about home materials and auto parts has made them increases so much?

    one of my kids what scraped front tire to rear tire in 2024 not once but twice. one repair was $6k the other closer to $9k. No electronics or high tech repairs required. both required new doors and a fair amount of body work.
    Yep. My son had service done on his car yesterday and the brakes replaced. $3,700.00. I told him to sell that car once he moves because the maintenance costs were too high. I will be getting rid of my car for the same reason once we move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownesZ21 View Post
    If it's not canceled we are all f'd.

    Lots of stuff has gone up because of the tariffs, lots has gone up under cover of the tariffs (profit taking) and a crazy amount more will if the tariffs stick around.

    How is this good for anyone, even if we do make more socks?

    I'm not seeing a scenario where an outright cancel is made.

    One problem is saving face. The other problem is that the tax law in congress costs the country trillions over the next 10 years and has to be offset by lower govt spending and tariffs. Imagine a world where the tax cut gets passed and the cuts required are not able to be implemented and tariffs dropped. The end result appears a national debt that continues to run out of control
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    I can give a little explanation on the auto parts/insurance costs. Our 2025 Ford Explorer ST was recently totaled. The body shop estimator was talking to us about boron steel parts that they couldn't work on, parts that were specifically matched to our individual vehicle that couldn't be replaced or repaired, special edition paint color, and alot of parts that could be replaced required adjacent parts to be replaced. Today's vehicles are very different than yesterday's vehicles.

    We test drove a new Cadillac.....oh my lord I can't imagine how much it would cost to repair a Caddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    I can give a little explanation on the auto parts/insurance costs. Our 2025 Ford Explorer ST was recently totaled. The body shop estimator was talking to us about boron steel parts that they couldn't work on, parts that were specifically matched to our individual vehicle that couldn't be replaced or repaired, special edition paint color, and alot of parts that could be replaced required adjacent parts to be replaced. Today's vehicles are very different than yesterday's vehicles.

    We test drove a new Cadillac.....oh my lord I can't imagine how much it would cost to repair a Caddy.
    Throw tariffs in the mix and getting replacement parts could get even worse. Then add in all the flood damaged vehicles and burned vehicles from the weather and the litigation fro collisions and you can see why rates have gone up. I am getting killed down here in Florida between auto and home insurance.

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    I buy a large freshly made pepperoni pizza at our Food Lion for $8.99. Sometimes there are on sale for $7.99. There’s plenty of meat on the pie but I have to add more cheese. 10 minutes in the oven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcesni View Post
    I buy a large freshly made pepperoni pizza at our Food Lion for $8.99. Sometimes there are on sale for $7.99. There’s plenty of meat on the pie but I have to add more cheese. 10 minutes in the oven.
    good example of what I call spending hygiene! So much of our spending is on things that don't matter, could be eliminated or in this example could reduce price.
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    Time for a new breed of smugglers.

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    Inflation, and lowering prices was America's #1 concern. We are driving in the polar opposite direction.

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    well reality is inflation is a concern and needs to be addressed, I mean for last 5 years everything has been climbing in costs. Longer it stays the harder it is to lower. But i don't think inflation is the #1. government spending has to get under control, debts needs to get under control. doing nothing just is pushing economic calamity down the road. Otherwise you will pray for these days and how cheap things were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsa View Post
    I'm not seeing a scenario where an outright cancel is made.

    One problem is saving face. The other problem is that the tax law in congress costs the country trillions over the next 10 years and has to be offset by lower govt spending and tariffs. Imagine a world where the tax cut gets passed and the cuts required are not able to be implemented and tariffs dropped. The end result appears a national debt that continues to run out of control
    I hear you, but how about a world where they try to get the tariffs to pay for the tax cuts, but they crash the economy and the GDP and the tax base.... so despite causing inflation, they also lower overall tax revenue because there is less money flowing through the system.

    I completely agree with the challenge of saving face, and I also agree they will not go from on to completely off.... but they have to go mostly off while finding some stupid reason they won. There are some smart people involved but so far they are not being listened to, I hope that changes while there is still an economy left to bounce. It's getting closer to a disaster by the day..... but we aren't there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossie3 View Post
    Inflation, and lowering prices was America's #1 concern. We are driving in the polar opposite direction.
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