Mercury ecu programming now in US

[NAMVET1968]

If you get caught ,just take a PLEA deal....next !

[yatesville88fan]

Anyone who proposes for people to be banned should themselves be banned. Lol

This

[novakevlar]

There was a whole lot more going on there than just tuning. You can disagree all you want but a simple search for a programmer for a commonly made vehicle will bring you up a dozen different ones, those aren't all illegal.

Just an FYI you can buy lots of illegal things in this world. But if we're sticking to tuning, I can buy a gutted cat or a straight pipe. All for "non street" purposes of course.

[goodman_fishing]

Would certainly like to try this out at some point on the 115hp. Something that sits at 6,000rpm and is rated for 87 octane is definitely leaving power on the table.

[Rich1]

If you get caught, just tell them your a dem

[yatesville88fan]

Speed limits are set too. And none of us EVER break them.

[PatriotAW4]

Just an FYI you can buy lots of illegal things in this world. But if we're sticking to tuning, I can buy a gutted cat or a straight pipe. All for "non street" purposes of course.

You sure can, but all of these are legal for use on the street, plus many more.
https://www.edgeproducts.com/?srslti...RvTP9gPcwq-Dux

https://www.holley.com/brands/superc...hoCijwQAvD_BwE

https://threeriverstackle.com/produc...a-sho-offshore

https://sctflash.com/

https://hypertech.com/

https://bullydog.com/product-categor...xoCzXAQAvD_BwE

[rid 05 198]

Right, I Yamaha 2 stroke 225 HP and a Yamaha 300HP are both a 2 star. I would think someone would have to show you are not a 2 star anymore after tuning. And who is going to do that.

You can always tell them your name is Flash Gordon and know the law inside out...

[SteezMacQueen]

Just an FYI you can buy lots of illegal things in this world. But if we're sticking to tuning, I can buy a gutted cat or a straight pipe. All for "non street" purposes of course.

Do you drive a boat on the street?

[188Musky]

The rule says you can't tamper and cannot reprogram onboard computers, period. It doesn't say "you can reprogram as long as it's the same as it's bigger 300hp brother".

Also consider these tunes may not just be putting back what was there. My 250 tune gets 332hp and raises the rev limit to 6500. The exhaust smells noticeably different. The fuel efficiency is better than a stock 300. I have no idea how the tune accomplishes this but it's not a stock 300.

Could it be putting out LESS HC+NOx after the tune? Yeah but to the letter of the law it doesn't matter, if it's a certified engine then you can't legally tune it.

Are you that close-minded that you think reprogramming an ECU is the only way to improve performance of a motor?

What about replacing the ECU, among other parts?

Stop, you're sounding more foolish with each post.

[novakevlar]

Are you that close-minded that you think reprogramming an ECU is the only way to improve performance of a motor?

What about replacing the ECU, among other parts?

Stop, you're sounding more foolish with each post.

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

[novakevlar]

Do you drive a boat on the street?

No, do you?

[188Musky]

Are you that confused that you can't follow the thread? You stated that you can make any performance modification you want, legally. I gave you right from the horse's mouth that there are things you can't do legally, specifically if it is emissions related.

Now you're talking about swapping ECU's, okay if those change emissions of your outboard that would likely be illegal as well. You're just arguing with yourself at this point.

Never once did I say you can make any performance modification you want, legally.

I said this, after it was stated that performing performance modifications was illegal:

With all due respect, Don, it’s not illegal to perform performance modifications on a motor you own.

It still isn't illegal. Having to insist that I said things I didn't is literally an admission that you're wrong.



BTW, you still haven't posted any law that says it's illegal to make performance modifications on your motor, only ones that say it's illegal to modify emissions or reprogram electronics to change emissions.

[Ted-LA]

And it's whispered that soon, if we all buy a tune
Then the hall monitors will scold us all season
And a new day will dawn, for those who run stock
And the go-fasts will echo with laugher

There's a feeling I get when I look at my tach
And my pistons are crying for leaving
From my exhaust I have seen clouds of smoke in the trees
And the voices of those who void my warranties

Ooh, it makes me wonder

[Grizzly]

Can't wait to get my 150 Pro XS done so my 18' boat won't be under powered any more

[DoctorJJ]

What's so hard to understand that modifying your motor to increase performance actually may be illegal? Your statement is false.

OK your turn.

First it was said it’s illegal. Now it’s said that it may be illegal. The pic you posted talked about modifying something that changes the emissions. There are tons of EPA compliant tunes sold everywhere. Educate yourself. Google that phrase. You guys also need to read the Magnuson Moss Act. Manufacturers can’t deny a warranty claim unless they can prove the modification is what caused the failure.

[yatesville88fan]

It’s your boat and motor if you want to soup it up go for it.

[SteezMacQueen]

No, do you?

Yeh. I sit in the boat while it’s on the trailer. Pretending that my ranger can go 70.

[novakevlar]

BTW, you still haven't posted any law that says it's illegal to make performance modifications on your motor, only ones that say it's illegal to modify emissions or reprogram electronics to change emissions.

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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[DoctorJJ]

Do you not think when you add 75 HP to engine that it does not change emissions? Give me some of that stuff you're smokin Willie!

Here's another article if you care to read. If not, I've highlighted the pertinent part of the article. You don't have to like it, and guys like me can ignore it, but it doesn't change the facts.

https://natlawreview.com/article/epa...les-constitute

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From the article you linked: In the future the EPA may…

Do research. Plenty of aftermarket EPA compliant tunes for various car engines that add tons of torque and hp but don’t run afoul of the law.