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    #101
    Quote Originally Posted by rb View Post
    That phone call was not public
    So if he shouted out over a megaphone outside it would be legal?

    You guys are just making the point greater that it's an outdated stupid unenforceable rule. You still have to catch the fish.
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    #102
    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    Then, better networking is a skill that is going to have to be developed, just like any other fishing skill. .

    On top of that, “networks” get it wrong just as often as they get it right.
    Agreed…..I have no issue with it.

    Just like a club Tx bitching about the guy that makes the time to practice
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    #103
    Quote Originally Posted by JBIGUNS View Post
    Why? He should have self reported before the tournament. Even if he didn’t go to said location.

    Yes - he should have self reported like I said.
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    #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Booster View Post
    So if he shouted out over a megaphone outside it would be legal?

    You guys are just making the point greater that it's an outdated stupid unenforceable rule. You still have to catch the fish.
    My thought's about it also.

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    #105
    We almost got through a tournament with no drama. 1 DQ and 4 no wake zone infractions. About on average these days.

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    #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Jigzz4344 View Post
    We almost got through a tournament with no drama. 1 DQ and 4 no wake zone infractions. About on average these days.
    There should be a spreadsheet for this
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    #107
    Pro tournament fishing these days

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown angler View Post
    Pro tournament fishing these days
    Club tournaments are worse.
    "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own,"
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    #109
    It sounds like Matt was not soliciting the information and it was just a mistake but a failed polygraph requires some action.
    Doesn't Matt and Bill L room together?

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    #110
    Quote Originally Posted by rb View Post
    And when the guy starts to say something you stop them and one more time it was a private conversation between two people on a phone
    Yup, made a comment a couple pages back. Milliken did the same thing on his practice video. Guy in his backyard started to talk about a “hole” and he stopped him immediately.

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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by tx_basser View Post
    Nothing is just coincidence.. I suspect BASS knew something was up and did a poly.
    Never had a single coincidence in your whole life?

    Wasn’t it reported previously that there would be five random competitors polygraphed at each event so there is always the chance you could be one of the five.

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    #112
    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    The problem is that they’re never equals when they get there.

    The qualifying process rewards inequality, and if fact, creates inequality, and fishing contests are inherently contests of inequality to begin with.
    Yes, and everyone is good with that inequality...as long as it's an inequality of fishing skill and knowledge, rather than other outside factors.
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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post

    Wasn’t it reported previously that there would be five random competitors polygraphed at each event so there is always the chance you could be one of the five.

    This is a long shot, but possible. Matt might have said to another competitor, “my son said a tournament a few weeks back was won at blah blah”. We all know that several of the anglers will report you instantly, due to clauses.

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    #114
    I would believe after last year they are doing 5 randoms to kill the issue. Not hard to believe at all.

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel1 View Post
    Does anyone actually believe that all of these guys that room together aren't sharing info?
    That's not illegal so.........

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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle24 View Post
    That's not illegal so.........
    Well.... Very hypothetical here but also very possible these days. 2 guys rooming, one guy gets info, which is against the rules, and shares it with his roommate which is now legal info. They split all winnings.
    Now, i do not think that is the case here at all. Bill and Matt are stand up guys but with the way things are handled these days it would pay off to do it.

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    #117
    The no info rule is just stupid and causes this type of stuff to happen. Matt got screwed here. Management at BASS is a train wreck right now.

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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by badboyjigs View Post
    I’m a Matt Herren fan , he’s old school good fisherman , but that info was straight up juice ! DQ was spot on , they both knew better !
    I agree completely. That’s about as good of info as you can get.

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    #119
    Is that the creek Bill Lowen won in?

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    #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Booster View Post
    This why BASS needs to get rid of this so called "NO Info Rule". It is a stupid out of date rule. This was set in the days of guys hiring guides to learn the lakes they were to fish. It no longer belongs with the modern technology of satelitte imagery and on-line mapping/navigation maps.
    The no info rule doesn't have anything to do with publicly available information though.

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