evinrude 225 HO Ficht not cranking

[sushi520vx]

I didn't think the pdp was bad considering I'm getting 13 volts to the emm, furthermore the fuel pump works, the trim works, and the starter really clicks when I turn the key. I'm just not getting the ground on the starter solenoid which is a pink-white wire that leads to the emm (or at least that's what the manual says).

Bad starter solenoid.

[Snooter007]

Bad starter solenoid.

tested it and it works its just not getting ground.

[Snooter007]

When motor turning over do you have spark

I cant get the engine to turn over ot begin with

[Danrude]

Sending the EMM and the PDP to be checked is the right move in my opinion, let us know what the results are!

[Snooter007]

Sending the EMM and the PDP to be checked is the right move in my opinion, let us know what the results are!

I believe so as well, I would do it myself but I don't have the knowledge or tools to do so. do you know if FICHT EMM out of Tennessee repair is good?

[Danrude]

I am not familiar with That outfit, I have only dealt with DFI Technologies in Ellijay GA and they do good work!

I believe so as well, I would do it myself but I don't have the knowledge or tools to do so. do you know if FICHT EMM out of Tennessee repair is good?

[Snooter007]

I am not familiar with That outfit, I have only dealt with DFI Technologies in Ellijay GA and they do good work!

called them and CDI only to find out they are both no longer around.

[ChampioNman]

Marine computer supply is also good.

[Snooter007]

Marine computer supply is also good.

are they still around if so what's there phone number?

[ChampioNman]

are they still around if so what's there phone number?

I checked their link from the stickies and it doesn't appear they are.

[Snooter007]

I checked their link from the stickies and it doesn't appear they are.

I tried the two numbers I could find and found they were both disconnected. I sent off the EMM and PDP panel yesterday hope to have it back early next week I will let you all know how it goes.

[2dwoods]

What does Emm have to do with turning over isn't it a straight shot from ignition to starter solenoid and then starter then flywheel turns and everything else comes into play ,.I could be wrong and probably don't understand

[Striperaddict]

My 04 200 had an issue like this. Do you hear a click when attempting to start it? My issue was intetmitent.I would hear the click then jump the solenoid and it would fire up I assumed it was a bad. Replaced and same issue maybe bad out of the box? Got another and same story. My engine had 2 relays between the solenoid and emm. I had no idea they would click. I called DFI for some advice and he told me about them. Replaced the one clicking and problem solved.
Now Ive got 3 spare starter solenoids. Haha

[Snooter007]

What does Emm have to do with turning over isn't it a straight shot from ignition to starter solenoid and then starter then flywheel turns and everything else comes into play ,.I could be wrong and probably don't understand

it provides the ground for the solenoid from the key.

[Snooter007]

My 04 200 had an issue like this. Do you hear a click when attempting to start it? My issue was intetmitent.I would hear the click then jump the solenoid and it would fire up I assumed it was a bad. Replaced and same issue maybe bad out of the box? Got another and same story. My engine had 2 relays between the solenoid and emm. I had no idea they would click. I called DFI for some advice and he told me about them. Replaced the one clicking and problem solved.
Now Ive got 3 spare starter solenoids. Haha

yeah the 2 solenoids are starter and main power relay I moved the starter around with one from the pdp and still nothing.

[Snooter007]

My saga continues, so I got the computer and pdp back yesterday all check and found to be running fine besides being on a 225 fuel map for a 225 HO motor. hooked it up turn the key fuel pump kicks on tach chirps but still not engaging starter. so this kinda leaves me in a pickle could it be the blue capacitor and I'm thinking it may be the 70 amp relay because when I touched it it was a little toasty.

[ChampioNman]

Check the battery cables for internal corrosion if you have a good set of jumper cables hook them up in place of the boat's cables. Just testing purposes. I've seen that cause these types of issues.

[Snooter007]

Alright so I have check everything and I have led it all back to the pink and white wire that comes off the solinoid what does it do?

[sushi520vx]

What voltage do you have on the primary side (battery side-line side) of the starter solenoid? What voltage do you have when trying to crank? If the voltage drops (primary side), you have a bad cable or loose connection...as stated by Championman. What voltage do you have on the starter side while trying to crank? If there is a difference, the solenoid is bad. Even thou its clicking, the contacts inside are pitted.

Replace the starter solenoid and the 70amp relay, $100. Better yet, replace all the relays, they are over 20yrs old and need to be on life support. Most likely the contacts are pitted in either the starter solenoid or the 70amp relay. Get genuine Evinrude parts if possible.

[Snooter007]

so after trial and error I figured it out, the solenoid NEEDS TO BE CASE GROUNDED. i kept getting none case grounded ones and they wouldn't work.