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    Quote Originally Posted by janky View Post
    This is what the expanded bracket would look like this year. I like how all of the ambiguity is removed.

    Format rules:
    *6 auto bids to highest ranked conference champs
    *6 at-large bids to next highest ranked teams
    *top 4 champs get byes
    *5-8 seeds host on-campus 1st round games




    The only thing that would change in that format is that Georgia would be playing Texas to get in and the bracket with Ole Miss , Ohio State and Washington would be a shootout to see who was going to be in the final four. The Missou, Oregon and Michigan side would be competitive also. Alabama would sleepwalk to the final four.

    I can't wait until the final four has three or maybe all four teams from the SEC. The butthurt here is going to be epic. Having four byes in the playoffs is asinine. Should cap things at eight or open it up to 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Holeshot View Post
    What I don't get is all of the hate for Alabama.

    I don't have any teams/schools that I hate.

    That does not mean that there are not some teams I enjoy Alabama beating more than others. No surprise it is the teams the loudmouth guys tout. Their teams are always cheated by the refs, Bama has bought players, ( with NIL all can and/or do ) , they even stoop to disparaging coaches family members and fans with vulgar references. Total lack of class and a good indicator of lack of character.
    There are no schools or teams that I dislike but there are a lot of obnoxious Alabama sidewalk fans that show a lack of class when their team gets lucky. Like you because of that there are some teams I like to see beat just to watch the reaction of their fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geodebasser View Post
    There are no schools or teams that I dislike but there are a lot of obnoxious Alabama sidewalk fans that show a lack of class when their team gets lucky. Like you because of that there are some teams I like to see beat just to watch the reaction of their fans.


    Some Texas and Ohio State fans rank up there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Perry View Post
    Some Texas and Ohio State fans rank up there too.
    Remember back in the ‘90s when Notre Dame fans acted like they were the only ones gittin’ into Heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkDriver View Post
    Fair, they also put 2 games on tape without Jordan
    And won both of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Perry View Post
    Some Texas and Ohio State fans rank up there too.
    For me it's Tennessee fans.

    They beat Bama last year and I saw fans ready to burn couches and issue death threats because Bama got into the playoffs and they didn't. This was after they got embarrassed by a South Carolina team
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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    Remember back in the ‘90s when Notre Dame fans acted like they were the only ones gittin’ into Heaven?


    And when USC fans were unbearable when they went on their run 15 years or so ago.......all of it is some fans just being unable to see things without any bias....

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    #448
    Quote Originally Posted by mrlawler1 View Post
    ...that's ALL is is..
    Look at you showing off that 4th grade education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Perry View Post
    People should boycott Dr. Pepper because they let those guys throw the football like a girl in those halftime competitions. Just more wussification of America.
    Yea Mark that was bad. I actually saw one girl throwing with one hand and the boy against her using two.

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    #450
    Quote Originally Posted by Meadows View Post
    And won both of them
    Ok… gimme your spread against the top ten, prove they’re in the top 4. Or use the 12 team format…they play Liberty first game, should win, then what


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlawler1 View Post
    It's funny you say that but I get torched every single time they lose but one thing always remains the same is that I'm here and a lot of the time I'm the only one that's here putting up with it...
    That you are.

    You are a fan of your team, nothing wrong with that.

    I can only speak for me, I am upset by the current system, but I have been for a while.

    I have no issue with Alabama getting in.

    I also understand the it would be hard for the committee to include AL, while excluding Texas.

    No matter what they did some fan base would feel slighted. Happens every year.

    FSU got shafted this season.

    What bothers me though, is the way this all happened.

    FSU was #4 and won, but dropped to #5

    Georgia fell from 1 to 6.

    So they are saying FSU is better than GA, OSU and Oregon

    If they were truly taking the 4 "best teams" shouldn't Georgia be in the conversation?

    The committee has changed the narrative annually and that is the problem.

    There needs to be a linier solution. If you do this, then you get that.....Play your way in, not the so called eye test.

    For everyone saying FSU would lose to who ever, I ask this. If Washington was playing Georgia, who would you be an significant amount of money on?

    2nd problem with this whole thing is that every other sport in the land has written qualifications to the post season where a team controls their destiny.

    Why not football.

    Back in the day we had rankings, bowl games and regional conferences.

    Now we have an invitational.

    Is this 4 game playoff better than the 2 team BCS? I think not.

    Like I said before, I think they got it wrong, but that does not mean I think the 4 teams in are not deserving of the playoff birth.

    It will be better next year because at least the "best" & "most deserving" teams will get in.

    However their will still be polls, a committee and bias in place.

    Personally I want to see both Alabama and Texas get destroyed in the play off and Washington beat Michigan for the championship.

    I say this since nobody give WA a chance according to the poll on this board.

    End of the day it is what it is and I have no skin in the game.

    Congratulations on beating Georgia and making the playoff.

    Last question -

    If Georgia beat Alabama, does Texas still get in or does that problem go away?

    I think we all no the answer and that is what I hate about the committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkDriver View Post
    Ok… gimme your spread against the top ten, prove they’re in the top 4. Or use the 12 team format…they play Liberty first game, should win, then what
    That's why they play the game man. That's the whole point I'm trying to prove, if it's all speculation then why play the game? If FSU is so bad, then why did they fall to a 5 seed and not a 10 seed, 12 seed?

    Look at the NCAAM tournament. How many times has there been a Final Four of all one seeds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Perry View Post
    And when USC fans were unbearable when they went on their run 15 years or so ago.......all of it is some fans just being unable to see things without any bias....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadows View Post
    That's why they play the game man. That's the whole point I'm trying to prove, if it's all speculation then why play the game? If FSU is so bad, then why did they fall to a 5 seed and not a 10 seed, 12 seed?

    Look at the NCAAM tournament. How many times has there been a Final Four of all one seeds?
    Basketball / Baseball not even kind of a comparison. I can find JUCO’s in Cali / Texas / Fl that will hurt a lot of teams feelings. They put two dismal performances while wins on tape with no chance of Travis returning. The rankings frankly don’t matter after 4 and FSU got probably if we’re being honest the 1 or 2 seed in a bowl. Did FSU deserve to be there, sure did. Did the committee fit the narrative to support their pick…yep. Did they get it mostly right? Yep, but WU should be replaced with Georgia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlawler1 View Post
    Hes certainly improved but I think they taken some of his responsibility away...plus the line play has gotten much better so hes not hammered every play either while trying to figure out his reads...what folks were so used to out of Alabama the last few years had everyone so spoiled with QB play anything less than spectacular was gonna roll some eyes...JM has had some great moments but he's also had some that left folks thinking WTH even in the iron bowl...
    Great accurate summation of Milroe early in the season and now. The difference in line play then and now is huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkDriver View Post
    Basketball / Baseball not even kind of a comparison. I can find JUCO’s in Cali / Texas / Fl that will hurt a lot of teams feelings. They put two dismal performances while wins on tape with no chance of Travis returning. The rankings frankly don’t matter after 4 and FSU got probably if we’re being honest the 1 or 2 seed in a bowl. Did FSU deserve to be there, sure did. Did the committee fit the narrative to support their pick…yep. Did they get it mostly right? Yep, but WU should be replaced with Georgia.
    If they were going with eye test, yes

    They once again sent a mixed message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkDriver View Post
    Basketball / Baseball not even kind of a comparison. I can find JUCO’s in Cali / Texas / Fl that will hurt a lot of teams feelings. They put two dismal performances while wins on tape with no chance of Travis returning. The rankings frankly don’t matter after 4 and FSU got probably if we’re being honest the 1 or 2 seed in a bowl. Did FSU deserve to be there, sure did. Did the committee fit the narrative to support their pick…yep. Did they get it mostly right? Yep, but WU should be replaced with Georgia.
    At least if that was the case they wouldn't have to lie to our face and tell us they put the best 4 teams in. I'd still be unhappy about it, but at least they wouldn't be hypocritical, which is why most people think it's a joke.
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    It’s pretty simple, they (most ppl) do not believe they would have been competitive. Comparing it to other years lacks the context of the other years. So who are we leaving out? You have all conference champs, 2 undefeated with terrible resumes and 2 with one loss and top 7 resumes…oh by the way FSU has #55 SoR and no starting qb.


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    It is supposed to be the team that is playing the best at the end. FSU can be bummed, but they did not get the shaft like some fans and their politicians are crying about (they are down to their 3rd string QB and the offense reflected this). This year proved that they need to expand as there weren't any really dominant teams. I still think any one of the 4 programs that are in can win it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkDriver View Post
    It’s pretty simple, they (most ppl) do not believe they would have been competitive. Comparing it to other years lacks the context of the other years. So who are we leaving out? You have all conference champs, 2 undefeated with terrible resumes and 2 with one loss and top 7 resumes…oh by the way FSU has #55 SoR and no starting qb.
    Fair enough. Let's say it wasn't Alabama who lost to Texas at home, almost lost to a really bad Auburn team, and barely beat Georgia. Let's say it was Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee, or some other mid-grade SEC team. You think that team is getting the 4 seed?
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