Yes because we should model ourselves after those bastions of environmental quality nationsOriginally Posted by boneil
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Yes because we should model ourselves after those bastions of environmental quality nations
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Yes because we should model ourselves after those bastions of environmental quality nations
Isn't this the place that loves "clean coal" and talks about all the coal plants China and India are building?
They're eating the Penguins, they're eating the seals...
These grid storage facilities are basically a non factor right now (with the exception of being used as a system stabilizer, rather than primary energy source). I can understand them making sense for individual homes (even though return on initial investment is extremely slow), or even small neighborhoods. But when you scale them up to high voltages, account for transmission loss and conversion losses, the numbers just don't make sense.There sure is alot of grid storage being built for just being pie in the sky ideas. But, you know the old saying, "one man's pie in the sky idea is another man's balanced grid with cheap energy".
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who am I to tell you what you want to believe.
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Maybe Tesla was on to something with that whole free energy thing after all...
We’re talking about covering reservoirs with solar panels and using batteries to power the US power grid. Making sense is not a consideration.
Intel here in Folsom has about 5 acres, plus their parking area is covered with solar panels that run there their company.
If you really do work for a utility, you need to do a little more studying and research as to what’s going on in the industry, and particularly in the west where you live. If you do, you’ll find that utility scale grid storage projects are being built like crazy and the price is dropping like a rock. And, as you kinda sorta admitted, residential battery storage is a fast growing market and forecasts have it being on par or cheaper than solar in five years or so.
Also, I don’t believe for a second that your employer built a utility scale solar project just to look green and never bothered to hook it up. There are far, far too many watchdogs at every utility, including yours, and they would never allow that to happen or be swept under the rug. It might not yet be online and it may never be online, but there’s a reason and it’s not because they just don’t feel like it. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
I'll admit, it's not a full scale solar project. It was solar surrounding the exterior of a newly built substation, which was never hooked up and zero plans are in place to do so. They are simply there for "green" aesthetics.
Also, I fully admit that I'm not 100% in tune with all the various projects going on in the West. That said for our fairly large company, I have seen a handful of these microgrid and solar projects that are mostly for good publicity, the vast majority of real money is being spent on hydroelectric generator improvements and existing infrastructure upgrades (its badly needed).
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The reason behind Him getting whacked by Otto Skorzeny who came to the US from Nazi Germany during Operation Paperclip
Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from the former Nazi Germany to the U.S. for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959.
Then OSS™ became the cia™ and here we are...
But who likes a Conspiracy Fact™
I can think of several reasons why this would never happen.
Will I be able to skip my jig underneath it?
Solar panels equal a net negative for the environment. Yes, they are recyclable but there is no money in recycling them and the amount of surface acres required to match the output of a clean coal, natural gas or nuclear plant (only half the day and assuming it isn’t cloudy) is ridiculous… and I work for a utility in the ‘Renewables’ group.
You are right, it won't happen.
I just saw about 200 train cars full of electric vehicle fuel drive across the Tennessee River on its way somewhere?
Just one question. What happens when it’s foggy on top of the water for long periods?
You can lead a horticulture,
but you can't make her think.
Personally, I'll just idle along in fog and not get up on plane.
LOL....
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Australia went solar before other nations. There is an estimated 800,000,000 solar panels that will be no good by the next 12 years there. They passed strict laws concerning no disposal in landfills. They have a ....problem.
time to stock the endangered Siamese Yellow Tailed Guppy in the western reservoirs
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I keep seeing cheap energy thrown around but my utility bills keep rising!
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