IS there any wood at all used any where in a z9 and also im wondering why nitro boats seem to be 2 to 3 hundred pounds heavier than the competition
IS there any wood at all used any where in a z9 and also im wondering why nitro boats seem to be 2 to 3 hundred pounds heavier than the competition
I would like to know this as well and also for the Z8. I wonder if they are giving weight with engine or if that's Hull weight only?? They sure do perform well if the hull truly is that heavy. I'm very impressed with my Z8 from what i have seen so far. Hard to believe the hull weighs 1950lb the way it performs....
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I would like to here the answer to that as well.
I attended a Tracker training seminar last week. The two Regional Reps. that taught it said there is no wood in Nitros.
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I can't comment on the Z9, but my 07 911cdc has wood in it. The first place is between the fuel tank area and livewells, the second area is the storage area under the seats, the 3 rd place is in the rod box area, and finally I found wood in the top cap where the trolling motor is mounted. As to being a heavy boat, yes, their are heavy and the wood could be the cause.
Mark
MARK MADEROS
They lied.
When I installed my structure scan, I drilled a hole in the splashwell right beside the hydraulic steering hoses. I hit wood, as a matter of fact the shavings are in my shop vac right now.
yes there is wood in there, just not in the transom and stringers. not a ton of wood, up under the console, trolling motor area. but they are resined in no exposed wood.
I watched them build boats, there is wood in the storage boxes, the top cap has balsa for meat. They soak it in resin, most boats use this method. Pretty sure this is considered composite construction. No wood in the transom, hull or stringers. There use to be wood around the live wells, that changed on 2010 MY I think, its now aluminium. If there is wood in the top cap, its not a bad thing, anywhere where you need to set screws, its better then pure fiberglass. This push to say no wood in boats has lead to other terms like "all composite construction".
I dunno I got 74 out of my rig loaded with 1/2 tank. Not matter the weight I'm happy with it.
Bryan McDonough
2023 Nitro Z21 XL
Nitro Team
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by BMCD »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> They soak it in resin, most boats use this method. Pretty sure this is considered composite construction. </td></tr></table>
"Most boats" made today are wood free. Triton was the first company to build thier complete line totally wood free and I know that Ranger does not use any wood. I can't speak for Stratos, Skeeter, Basscat or Pheonix but I would disagree that "most" new boats use wood. When you drill into any wood you have an avenue for rot to begin. Most wood used is encapsulated in glass but will still rot when screws are put into it allowing water to seep in. Wood that is completely covered in glass is fine for a long time as long as the seal is not compromised.
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That's why when smart people put a screw in they seal the hole and around the hole not letting water get in.
i think i opened a can of worms with this post
Well as you probably know balsa soaked in resin will never rot. And even then its not structural. When companies use the all composite phrase, u betterthink twice. But alas I do not even care for those 2 brands mentioned.
Bryan McDonough
2023 Nitro Z21 XL
Nitro Team
Stratos and Phoenix are wood free, but do use 'composites' like mentioned above.
Like was said, wood isn't bad as long as the seal isn't broken.
Jason Phillips
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"Most boats" made today are wood free. Triton was the first company to build thier complete line totally wood free and I know that Ranger does not use any wood. I can't speak for Stratos, Skeeter, Basscat or Pheonix but I would disagree that "most" new boats use wood.</td></tr></table>
Bass cats are 100% fiberglass amd been that way for 10 years plus.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by BMCD »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">When companies use the all composite phrase, u betterthink twice. </td></tr></table>
+1000
My understanding the word "composite" when used in boat building is something made up of two or ingredients. Many think it's way better than wood but not necessarily depending on what the composite make up is. Every boat builder can have their own seperate definition of what composite is.
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Adam
both partys are right on this screws into straight glass is weak and a screw into resin soaked wood is leaving it open to rot... a possible way around it is to either use nut plates (can get really expensive really quick or a more practical way is to put the screws into the wood "wet"
also as stated the word composite by definition is two or more different materials combine without loosing any of the materials properties. with that said even with resin soaked wood in the hull it can still be considered 100% composite
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