2007 285XL w/150 VMAX

[phillipshunter]

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2007 Stratos 285 XL w/VMax 150. Yamaha 25-M prop. Fully loaded and 1/2 to 3/4 tank of gas by myself. I can only turn the 25-M to 5200 and get 58.5 to 59.1 gps. Called my dealer to get another prop - he let me try out two; a 23 Apollo and a 24 Ballistic. I turned both from 5800 to 6000 and never got over 60.5 gps. So now, I've put the 25-M back on and am very frustrated. Dealer told me I was buying a 64-66 mph combo and I can't get it above 60.

I can actually turn the 25-M to 5400 but it chine walks so bad I can't drive it.

Question: Did I buy a 60 MPH boat or do I need to invest in a 23 Temptest or 23 M?

Thanks,
Ryan

[RyanB]

My partner had a 2004 with a carb Johnson 150. I know he had a 23" and I think it was a Renegade. Best he could get was right at 61-62 @ 5500 (GPS) during the winter. I would try both the 23 tempest and 23 M. I may be wrong but I think it is hard for a 150 to turn a 25. I had a 150 HPDI on a SX 190 Skeeter (same size as the 285) at the time and me and my partner ran neck and neck. I was turning a 25 M @ 5500 and thats all I could get out of it.

[Todd Morgan]

23 M is what you need........if there's a jackplate involved it should be set at 3.375" under pad to shaft.

You don't have a 66 mph boat...you do have a 63 mph boat with a 23M and a jackplate propely set.

I'd take it back to the dealer and let him get me 66 mph since that's what was stated.

[Parch07]

All the posts to your inquiry are very accurate. I had an 03 185 (same basic hull as your 285) with a Johnson 150. With a 6inch plate, 3 1/4" below, 24 raker or 23 renegade, air temp in the 50s or less, around a quarter tank, pushing 5500 to 5700 the best I could touch was the high 62s (mph). Typical load the boat would consistently run right around 60. Hope this helps.

[Southfork]

I have a 2006 285 with a 150 carb V max. No jackplate and run a 25 tempest. About 5200 rmps is all i can turn at around 60 mph. Thats all she's got.
But thats fast enough for me. I think if you hitting 6000 rpms sooner or later you will blow the motor.

[phillipshunter]

Thanks for all the replies. I know now that I've got a 60-64 mph boat.

Todd, you must have missed the part where I said the "dealer" gave me a 23 Apollo to try when he also said he was getting me a 23-M.

One last question: the motor is currently on the transom, I'm going to run a 23 Temptest in a little while so I don't know yet how its going to do with that, but let's say it hits 5600 to 5700 rpm and 61 to 62 mph, is the $300 for the jackplate going to be worth the $$?

[Jason Phillips]

You should pick up 1-2 mph with a jackplate and the proper setup. I had an '04 285 Pro w/ 150 Johnson. I had a 6" plate and turned a 25 Tempest to 64 mph via gps with a very light load. There was absolutely no chinewalk at that speed. If you have chinewalk, generally you need to raise the motor a little bit. If it's too low, you have too much boat in the water which causes the chine.

[Todd Morgan]

Nope.....I didn't miss a thing. You asked what to do and a 23M is what to do....

I'm positive the dealer would have let you tried a 23 M over an Apollo......whatever that is. We run short on props of certain caliber from time to time and have to substitute.

[phillipshunter]

I wish he would let try a 23M. He stocks Apollo, Michigan Wheel Corp, and the only Yamaha props he gets are the ones that come in with the package. I asked him about installing a 6" plate for me a few minutes ago and he said he could do it but it would be 700, so I called another dealer and they'll be glad to install for 300 and they are also going to let me try the 23 temptest free of charge.

I've have a bad experience with this dealer and I've figured out why he has fewer boats on his floor than the others around and also why they sell alot of four-wheelers.

He had a great price on the boat but there's no service after the sell.

[Todd Morgan]

I'm really sorry to hear that........a dealer who won't service his customers makes all uf us look bad.

It does sound like you have found a good one to do future business with tho!

[phillipshunter]

I have found a great dealer to work with from now on. After they offered to help the way they did, I offered to put their sticker on the boat and take the other one off :).

[mjwray]

I have a 2006 285 dual consol with a 150 etec HO, run 62.4 at 5400 rpm turning a tempest 24 with a full load, 2 people. Jackplate was put on today hope to pick up tommarow and see how much I will gain. You guys think my motor with turn a bigger prop with the jackplate on? maybe hit the upper 60's?

Thanks Matt

[phillipshunter]

I ran the 23 temptest a little while ago. I hit 62.5 at 5700 rpm. I've already set up a jack plate install for Monday.

Todd, is the jackplate going to get me two more mph?

[Jason Phillips]

You will not run upper 60's with that combo. You should however see 65-66. Like I said above, I turned a 25 Tempest when I had mine and that was with the 150 Johnson. I had a great holeshot and could run 64 with a light load. I know of a couple of DI H.O. 150's that will run 66, so you will be right in that ballpark when you get it really tuned in.

[mjwray]

thanks for the responce blazer mid 60's is fine with me, got the plate mainly cause we running out of water here in florida but looks like a might try and get a 25 and try that and see if i can hit 65 or 66.

Thanks Matt

[phillipshunter]

Jason,

Where in the **ll is Killen? I grew up in Fayette which is a small town but have never heard of Killen. I even know where Houston, AL is in Winston County.

BTW, like the last name.

Ryan

[Jason Phillips]

Killen is just east of Florence on Hwy 72. It's in the Northwest corner of the state.

This is where I'm from and finally got back here. I used to work in McCalla, so I know exactly where that is (no offense, but I'm glad I'm not still there).

[phillipshunter]

I don't blame you. I actually live in Lake View/Million Dollar Lakes and I don't know which is worse.

You want to meet up when I get my boat back with the plate next Thursday and help me get it dialed in?

[Jason Phillips]

Can't during the week, but if you want me to help out, I'll be glad to meet up with you on the weekend.

You'll probably pick up 200+ rpms by putting the plate on so make sure you have enough prop to handle the extra rpms.

[phillipshunter]

I've got both the 25M and 23 temptest. By my calcs, if I'm running 5700 with the 23 now then that will put me at 5900. Now, if I put the 25 on the it'll back me down to 5500. Now, if I know how to use the calc right, I can run at 5500 with the 25 and get +-65mph or I can run 5900 and get +- 64mph. I'm probably gonna play with it next Friday and if it doesn't work to my likings then'll I'll be on here to see if we can get a weekend picked out.