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    If Phoenix can...

    If a small new company like Phoenix can build a quality, well laid out, and great performing boat at a decent price, why can't Triton, Bass Cat and the rest of the large manufactures do the same? Give em hell Phoenix

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (Stratos Luver)

    Corporate greed.

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (Stratos Luver)

    Complacency!
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    Re: If Phoenix can... (Stratos Luver)

    they can, they just don't or won't. gary and greg has listened to the fisherman in building these boats and we've responded by buying them. funny didn't the pioneer forrest wood use the same strategy years ago, i bet he likes phoenix too

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (Stratos Luver)

    Reckon the R boats are still built "one at a time"?
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    Re: If Phoenix can... (bassinbama)

    Forrest Wood is just a name and a face anymore. I very much doubt he doing much if any shot calling these days. He lost that privilege the day he sold out. I am hoping that Phoenix stays the course, resists the temptations when the big corporations come knocking on their door.

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (idbefishing)

    It's called margin. Can't build the best for the best price when you have to pay all those "Pro Staffers" or cut prices for the tier 2 pros and make any money so you gotta cut corners and charge a ton for the boats which is what Phoenix DOES NOT DO!

    These boys figured it out clearly and it starts with a solid business model far before a boat is ever thought about being built. How are we going to to do this and not lose our shirts? That question got answered very early and we owners are reaping the benefits via the products and the company as it should is reaping them via profits.

    Good job Gary & team. Smart wins every time!

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (SilverFox66)

    Very well said Barry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: If Phoenix can... (nightbasser)

    Overhead and the culture of the company. Simple as that to answer both your questions.

    In other words, the employees feel like they are part of something special and the cost to run thier business is still RELATIVELY low.




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    Re: If Phoenix can... (microsalmo)

    Don't let your pride blind you all too much as the pro's are a marketing tool and the loss of "profits" on 10-12 boats is a good advertising investment of those on the BASS and/or FLW tour. All tax deductible too.
    Those boats are sold at the end of each season and it all works out in the end. If it didn't you would not have see all the new phoenix boats in the Classic or Elite tour this year.


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    Re: If Phoenix can... (nmanley)

    I don't have any problems with a Pro getting a boat at cost price or a little cheaper. It's good for the company. Greed is the largest factor in inflated boat prices. Erwin Jacobs companies went bankrupt but he is still a wealthy man???

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (Stratos Luver)

    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Stratos Luver &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">If a small new company like Phoenix can build a quality, well laid out, and great performing boat at a decent price, why can't Triton, Bass Cat and the rest of the large manufactures do the same? Give em hell Phoenix </td></tr></table>

    I don't own a Phoenix or a Bass Cat, but it seems as though Bass Cat is just as great of a company!!!

    When step up from my Crestliner it will be a Phoenix or Bass Cat for sure though!!!

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    Re: If Phoenix can... (weeks)

    It's funny to see the Triton ads or commercials saying "Triton Boats by Earl Bentz". Earl is just a name like Forrest Wood. Earl has no part of the manufacturing of the boats and his office is in Nashville, TN not Flippin, AR. It's the Randy Hopper boat and Triton will always play second fiddle to Ranger in Flippin.
    I have had multiple tours of the old Triton factory in the past. I had a chance to tour the Phoenix factory last week. They do things right in Tullahoma. I will be ordering my Bird soon.

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