LSU Game is going to be on the hill in 2012!

[cmclairday2]

Finally! Glad to see them moving this one where it belongs, at DWR! Ole Miss is our conference LR game this year.

[wildkat7]

boooo

[RazorBassin]

I think it's a great move, LSU game deserves the big stage!

[HatfieldHog]

All the games are going to the hill. It's just a matter of time. Will the LR people travel up to the hill? Most of them will. Will donors keep laying out the cash? IF we keep winning, money will never be a problem.

WMS pushed their luck too far, thinking that they could take all of the concessions, plus ask the U/A to pony up 150,000 for playing there. The city of LR should have given the U/A 500k to play a game there. Plus, the U/A is losing 20,000 tickets at 55 bucks per ticket every time they play in LR. Plus, we are only allowed to host recruits at one away from campus game. That's why Bama quit playing a game at Birmingham.

Get ready folk, it's coming!

See ya, HatfieldHog

[tat900]

[JOHN202]

Last time LSU played there was in 1993 and they got the crap beat out of them...

[Eyra1]

John, what's the point? The last time we played ya'll at BR we got the dog crap beat out of us!
But it will be a new experience for the Tigers...most of them were just newbies.

I can see advantages/disadvantages to moving the game. Eventually all will move. I also see this as a prime opportunity for Gus and ASU to make serious in-roads in recruiting in central and south Arkansas. Which could help develop both teams really. If the in-state players are snubbed by Arkansas, ASU may be able to keep them home, having a head coach that has SEC experiences, and can tout he coached a Heismann trophy winner plus has a national championship ring.
That in itself could keep a couple from possibly defecting to another SEC school, and help Arkansas in the long run.

Or maybe not.

[HatfieldHog]

[quote=Eyra1]John, what's the point? The last time we played ya'll at BR we got the dog crap beat out of us!
But it will be a new experience for the Tigers...most of them were just newbies.

I can see advantages/disadvantages to moving the game. Eventually all will move. I also see this as a prime opportunity for Gus and ASU to make serious in-roads in recruiting in central and south Arkansas. Which could help develop both teams really. If the in-state players are snubbed by Arkansas, ASU may be able to keep them home, having a head coach that has SEC experiences, and can tout he coached a Heismann trophy winner plus has a national championship ring.
That in itself could keep a couple from possibly defecting to another SEC school, and help Arkansas in the long run.

Or maybe not.

I do understand your reasoning, but, if Malzahn is the head coach that he was as a coordinator, he'll be exiting for a real D-1 job in year two!

See ya

[Eyra1]

He's had opportunities to go...he had opportunity for Vandy job and others. ASU stepped up the $$$ and it became a mutual deal. Freeze(?) and Roberts and even Lacewell never made that kind of serious cash at ASU. Something had to have triggered it.
He may move on to another D1 job (I wouldn't say "real", it's just the nature of the beast), advancing up through conference rankings, or he may stay.
Most of the country thought Petrino would be gone in a year or two...now he's got the massive buyout that shows his commitment.
Who's to say it won't happen to a lesser degree in NE Arkansas?
Heck, I'm just a fan of both, and all Arkansas college teams.

[HatfieldHog]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Eyra1 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">He's had opportunities to go...he had opportunity for Vandy job and others. ASU stepped up the $$$ and it became a mutual deal. Freeze(?) and Roberts and even Lacewell never made that kind of serious cash at ASU. Something had to have triggered it.
He may move on to another D1 job (I wouldn't say "real", it's just the nature of the beast), advancing up through conference rankings, or he may stay.
Most of the country thought Petrino would be gone in a year or two...now he's got the massive buyout that shows his commitment.
Who's to say it won't happen to a lesser degree in NE Arkansas?
Heck, I'm just a fan of both, and all Arkansas college teams.


Malzahn took a 500K cut to switch jobs. The money listed in the paper included Malzahn's house and vehichles, the actual money is closer to 500K at ASU. Something bad when down at Auburn one week before the ASU hiring. Malzahn went from staying at Auburn, to leaving in 4 days time. One source said that Malzahn decided that if he was unemployed, he still would not stay at Auburn. The buyout at ASU is really low, 200 to 300K. That tells me that he will be shopping soon!

I live 20 miles from ASU and I'd like for them to be competitive, but, their money base is just too low to make it happen right now.

See ya, HatfieldHog


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[cmclairday2]

As far as ASU's advancement, I personally don't care if they win another game. I used to be one of these, "support all Arkansas" types, but I've heard enough ASU fans badmouthing and complaining about the university that I don't care anymore.
I don't see how moving the LSU game to the much better venue as being anything but positive...

[RazorBassin]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by cmclairday2 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">As far as ASU's advancement, I personally don't care if they win another game. I used to be one of these, "support all Arkansas" types, but I've heard enough ASU fans badmouthing and complaining about the university that I don't care anymore.
I don't see how moving the LSU game to the much better venue as being anything but positive... </td></tr></table>

No doubt it will be good for the team. LR fans will complain about the move, but if they want to watch the Hogs they can travel to NW Arkansas. We have finally arrived as a big time program and it is time we have all of our bigtime games on campus. It's a recruiting advantage and that is enough by itself. As far as ASU getting players that other SEC teams want...doubtful. If you have an ASU offer or an SEC offer you take the SEC offer. Whether it is Kentucky, Ol piss or MSU you take an SEC offer over a sunbelt offer EVERY time. Malzahn will not be the great head coach that everyone thinks he is going to be. ALL the pressure is on him now and I think he cracks. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow. However, I just don think NE Arkansas has enough to offer to bring the type of talent to ASU that they need to sustain success there and become the "Boise State of the South."

[tommyc_285XL]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by cmclairday2 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">As far as ASU's advancement, I personally don't care if they win another game. I used to be one of these, "support all Arkansas" types, but I've heard enough ASU fans badmouthing and complaining about the university that I don't care anymore. </td></tr></table>

I couldn't agree more. Living close to ASU, I get sick of hearing about them. Now that they've hired Malzhan, some fans can't shut up long enough to hear the craziness coming out of their mouth.

[Eyra1]

Saw the new billboard out on I40 headed to Memphis today. Got Malzahn on it, arms folded, with the ASU logo beside him. "Game On" is the phrase.
Kinda funny...

I'm sure there are UA fans that talk trash about ASU as well, not just one sided. Anyone that doesn't admit they've at least heard it is blindly loyal. I hear it on DTS.

[cmclairday2]

I don't believe what you hear on DTS is a fair assesment of anything that represents the actual fan base. Most are actually either neutral or even supportive of ASU. I know plenty and have seen enough message board comments from the ASU faithful who want nothing more than to see U of A go down in flames to sicken me. This goes way back. Look at what their fans did when the Lady Hogs played ASU years ago....

[Eyra1]

And Bo Mattingly's show is a fair assessment? Let's be realistic here, the only reason they don't play is because Broyles never allowed it. He is also the one to unite the fan base by having games in LR. Now that he has moved on and the marquee games are in Fayetteville (as they should be), and we know that eventually all the games will be there, why not schedule other SBC teams?
It's not like Alabama-Auburn, USC-UCLA, OU-OSU being in the same conference.

More like Georgia-Georgia Tech, South Carolina-Clemson, LSU-ULM. Different conferences. Hell, even Kentucky plays Louisville. Kind of a "no brainer" if you ask me.

Worst thing about message boards is that people are always arguing and of an opinion not necessarily endorsed by those fan boards.

[cmclairday2]

No, I used DTS as the given example, Bo's show is no different, but they weren't brought up..
Now, Arkansas/ASU is not nearly the same comparison as any of the schools you listed to endorse an inner state matchup.. Population makes a big difference...
An ASU/UA match up is a win ONLY for ASU. There is no argument for playing ASU that holds any water.
I want what's best for the program. Not what even the popular majority thinks is best.
Yeah, I think I have a pretty good grasp of what message boards are about...

[cmclairday2]

As a side note, look at the schools with in state rivals.
Bama/AU: Population that doubles Arkansas
OU/OSU: " "
USC/UCLA: Apples to turnip greens comparison when comparing ASU and UA
Kentucky/Louisville: Not even relevant in any football conversation
How about Ole Miss and MSU: Look at what they've accomplished over the last 50 years and tell me how they have benefited from an instate rivalry...

[Eyra1]

I am not saying they should play every year. I think LSU plays some Louisiana teams, so how would that be different? Tenn/Memphis? Aside from the "It's a win only game for ASU" what legitimate reason could there be? No one knows if it would affect recruiting, fan base or anything else, no one.
Just seems to me that the national media see the schedule, see ULM or ULL, LaTech and wonder why not ASU since it is SBC.
Really, there is no excuse not to play, at Fayetteville, just like any other SBC team. If one thinks it helps only ASU, then the above posts show signs of insecurity. Someone mentioned that even having Malzahn wouldn't keep an in state player here rather than go to another SEC school. So how would it hurt recruiting for either school? If a student gets an offer between Arkansas and ASU, 99.99% choose Arkansas, no doubt. Most would go SEC or Big 12 before ASU. Moving the games to Fayetteville keeps revenue coming in with the extra 20-25K seats and concessions. Making money is bottom line. How many non-con games against lesser conferences actually sell out at Razorback stadium? Put ASU in with the same number of tickets that the other SBC schools get. Sellout.
Not even saying it should be a rivalry, but to ignore or brush under the mat the idea of rotating all SBC schools as a non-con game doesn't make sense either, imho.
People from LR and on southward will drive to Fayetteville in years to come, because it is where the Hogs play, even though they grumble now. But the supporters who want all the games up there because of the added revenue are doing double talk when they ignore another potential sellout and more $$$. I'm not going to stop buying Hog items because ASU played them close. That's bs.
As I mentioned the other major rivalries are same conference, with Louisville-Kentucky being more in line with a potential Ark-ASU matchup or LSU-ULM for example, a non-con game.
We've got the right coach with Petrino, right staff and nice additions, and the attitude "Anytime, anywhere". Why not?

[cmclairday2]

So we just play them once? Like a once and for all game?? Sure....I'd love that. Go hang 70 on them and let them see why they don't need to play the U of A.
But, in reality, why? I don't think ASU fans would be all that great of an addition to Fayettville. Hell, they don't sell out their measly ass stadium as is. I'm not in any way insecure about ASU or them "challenging" the Univerisity for players. There is just no need in playing them. How can you say its not a lose/lose for U of A? If you beat them badly...well what did you expect? If you don't.... It isn't on the field where ASU stands to be a thorn in the University's side. Its dollars, donors. I don't want fellow donors feeling like they need to split their funds because ASU is up and coming. Why not? I ask why? Because Kentucky plays Louisville? I don't want our football program to be like either of those. LSU playing ULM or Tulane is another apples to grapefruit comparison. Much larger population base.