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    Full Size PU sales down

    Full-size pickup sales have fallen from 14% to 9% of the market in a matter of months
    The market for pickup trucks and SUVs is like a sad, old country song right now. “If My Truck Could Run on Tears,” could be the lament of anyone with a cargo bed, thanks to four-buck-a-gallon gas.

    Full-size pickup sales have fallen from 14 percent to 9 percent of the market in a matter of months. Buyers are fleeing to smaller cars, in what Ford sales analyst George Pipas calls the most dramatic market shift he’s seen in three decades.

    Dealers and automakers are getting clobbered, with GM and Ford shuttering truck plants and Toyota and Nissan considering switching U.S. truck plants to build more efficient models instead. Sales of GM trucks and SUVs dropped 37 percent in May, and Ford announced a two-month delay in the launch of the 2009 F-150 pickup, citing a need to first draw down current inventory.

    But while these are tough times for the real truck folks — contractors, landscapers and rural owners — there’s a silver lining to all this gas-price gloom. It’s suddenly become clear that many Americans can get along just fine without their three-ton, gas-guzzling friend. The myth of the pickup is dead. The SUV fairy tale is over. It’s a reality check, and ultimately that’s a good thing.

    Haulin’ Hot Air?

    As I’ve mentioned in previous articles on MSN, Detroit engineers have a dismissive phrase for big pickups and their owners. They’re known as “air haulers,” because 99 percent of the time most of the trucks drive around with empty beds. These owners have now discovered that hauling oxygen — or 60 pounds worth of hound dog — at $4 a gallon isn’t worth the cost.

    For years, truck manufacturers hyped the myth, insisting that owners really needed these behemoths for towing boats, trailering horses, whatever. But that’s cattle manure, and the manufacturers always knew it. For every guy who’s actually chauffeuring a pair of ponies there are 50 urban cowboys who are all hat and no cattle, to use a handy Texas phrase. These guys aren’t hauling anything but their egos.

    Turn on any Sunday football or baseball game and check out the truck ads for American myth-making at its best. You’re guaranteed to see cowboys roping steers and chugging up snowy mountainsides. Pickups slogging through ankle-deep mud with bulldozers hitched to the backs. How many people, outside of Wyoming, have even seen a real cowboy at work? How many people do you know who tow bulldozers around?

    SUV Fallout

    The same goes for SUVs. Jim Taylor, general manager of GM’s Cadillac division, offered a frank assessment of the market during our recent dinner in New York. Taylor was in town to show off the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid, a gas-electric version of what has been one of the most conspicuously consuming sport utes on the market. “People who had no real use for a truck,” Taylor explained, “where it was just fashion and image — that’s over.”

    But Taylor says he’s convinced that larger families and people who do need space and capability will gravitate back to trucks. “There’s a core group that’s not at all interested in switching to a smaller car,” Taylor said. “But the 28-year-old kid who would have bought an Escalade, he might be switching to a sports sedan instead.”

    It’s clear that those in the media who are gleefully pronouncing the SUV and pickup dead have it wrong, and some have been making those predictions for more than a decade. Even in the pits of this remarkable sales crash, full-size pickups are still outselling all hybrid models combined — by nearly four to one.

    Yet it’s equally clear that many people who bought plus-sized pickups for the image could get along just fine with a smaller one. An interesting item went largely unnoticed in the recent sales reports. Toyota’s Tacoma pickup — among the best of the current midsize trucks — saw an eight percent uptick in May sales.

    Many folk who have serious home-improvement chores can hire out delivery or rent a pickup truck when they have a job to do. And for hardworking people who really can’t live without their trucks, there are some bright spots in the gloom. With both Ford and Dodge readying redesigned versions of their top-selling F-Series and Ram pickups, they’re flat-out giving away their current 2008 trucks to make room for the new ones, cutting $10,000 or more off list prices.

    As with big-rig operators who are struggling, at some point the truck-driving landscaper or contractor is going to have to pass the price of gasoline to the customer. Whether or not you drive a truck, you’ll likely shoulder some of the fuel-cost burden to keep your lawn tidy or your house looking good.

    It’s in everyone’s best interest that automakers come up with a better, smarter breed of pickup. A similar market shift has been going full force as people dump old-school SUVs in favor of car-based crossovers that go farther on a gallon.

    With a little imagination and a lot of engineering, carmakers can come up with pickups that work hard but drink less, and still offer enough of the macho-man styling that’s made them an American staple. Do that, and pickup lovers can sing a happier tune — and still have room for that hound dog in back.

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    sounds like i need to buy a new truck

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    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigfishingstud &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like i need to buy a new truck </TD></TR></TABLE>
    Im workin on it

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (bigfishingstud)

    My dad just loaned on a 2006 Dodge, 3/4 ton, quad cab, short bed, 4wd from a dealer in Wichita. The purchase price was $16k . If I could get out of my truck I would snap one up in a hurry. Apparently there is a large selection of off lease vehicles coming through and no one is buying them.

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (chunter_ksu)

    yeah i have heard even the prices on the toyota trucks are weak too...i would love a new tundra!!! trade in on mine is 10K and i got offered 8K for it on trade..that sucks big time...but its free and clear
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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Bassman25)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bassman25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i have heard even the prices on the toyota trucks are weak too...i would love a new tundra!!! trade in on mine is 10K and i got offered 8K for it on trade..that sucks big time...but its free and clear</TD></TR></TABLE>

    and i'll give you 6k for it

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    Lots of trucks on the lot. Only those of us that need them will have them here in the future. Like the article says "For every guy who’s actually chauffeuring a pair of ponies there are 50 urban cowboys who are all hat and no cattle, to use a handy Texas phrase. These guys aren’t hauling anything but their egos."

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    some places are not accepting trades that are trucks either...the local chebby dealer will not take trucks in as trades
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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    In the paper this weekend

    2008 Dodge Crew Cab 4x4 pickup, brand spanking new. V8, automatic and a few other goodies.

    Regular price : $36,998
    Sale Price : 19,998 almost 40% off

    plus zero percent financing .... sounds like Dodge is hard up to sell trucks




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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (sclark)

    We are looking at buying a new one.... hard to think about a used on when a new one is just as cheap.

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (hooks2bset)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hooks2bset &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We are looking at buying a new one.... hard to think about a used on when a new one is just as cheap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

    Agreed.

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    If my truck wasn't paid for I'd buy another one now.

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    Wheels jsut bought a new Duramaxx......stickered for 52k think he bought it for 38k

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Luke)

    I bought a new dodge 3/4 ton diesel mega cab that stickered for 48 and i gave 33..I got in the new one after rebates for what i would have paid for the used one...That was 2 mounts ago its going in the shop to have the hail damage fixed from 2 weeks ago..

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    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike long &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> its going in the shop to have the hail damage fixed from 2 weeks ago.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

    That sucks

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Hydrilla Gorilla)

    Very true article. I remember when everyone used to do just fine with station wagons or sedans for smaller families. In the past years it seems everyone has had an ego to fill. Its going to be like it used to be, only those who need one will own one.


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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (Champer196)

    Jack,

    I agree..........my Family had Nothin but Sedans and my g-pa owned a wagon for a short time as well........hauled a lot of stuff in that thing too but technically.........the station wagon just got bigger and got called a Tahoe/Yukon Heck...................the ONLY truck(s) my dad ever had was a K5 Blazer for YEARS..........last one he had was an 86 after the 84 got wreched.......he had that thing up till about 04 when he gave my Brother the Blazer and bought himself a Silverado Z-71 for retirement other than that my Bro drove that thing till he moved to Desmoines and sold it before takign it with him......it still ran good.....just needed a bit of Carb work.......but it did not get good mpg anyway so it was no longer practicle for him.


    as far as ME.....I got tires of Fixing the Old Beaters.....even our 2 MOnte's we had.....Ginas was a 84' & was a nice car......got me 20 mpg on I-80 goign Hunting one year hated getting rid of that car but it was time


    nothin but Good Used & Depriciated stuff for me anymore

    my in laws have a Saturn and a Corolla

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    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tritonryan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothin but Good Used & Depriciated stuff for me anymore </TD></TR></TABLE>
    I've got to agree with Ryan.

    We bought my wife's 2000 Toyota Avalon when it was 4 years old with 50,000 miles on it. It was traded in by a local lady doctor for an identical new one. My Yulon XL Denali was 2 years old with 38K on the clock when I got it last fall. Unless one of them goes in the dumper, we won't be buying anything else for a loooooooooooooooooooong time, and then it will be lightly used once more.


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    They stopped making work trucks and made them to much like cars (ride, drive and all the accessories ) so they were being used for just every day use..I bought a 1/2 ton late last year to use for work i had a hard time finding a plain old single cab without all the bells and whistles..

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    Re: Full Size PU sales down (mike long)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike long &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They stopped making work trucks and made them to much like cars (ride, drive and all the accessories ) so they were being used for just every day use..I bought a 1/2 ton late last year to use for work i had a hard time finding a plain old single cab without all the bells and whistles..</TD></TR></TABLE>

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