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    Angry Nautic Star Boats Experience

    I know this is mainly a bass fishing forum, but I see Nautic Star boats a bunch in some of the big lakes around here, so I thought I'd share my experience thus far.

    I'm not going to lie this thread is basically to vent about Nautic Star(sorry, I'm sure not all want to know, I have to get it off my chest), but any advice and opinions are appreciated on how you would handle this situation or how you think it could have been handled better.


    I bought a brand new 2016 Nautic Star 224XTS in October 2015. In about August/September of 2016 we began hearing and feeling in our feet a loud thunking noise when going over waves, even very light rolling type waves. When there was a heavier chop, it really sounded bad and you could really feel the thuds from whatever it was. We stopped on that trip and starting checking to make sure all the batteries were secure, which they were, so we check all the compartments to see if anything big may be rolling side to side or something and we found nothing. We thought that maybe the fuel tank was moving, so we tried our hardest to see if that may be the problem, but there was no noticeable movement that we could tell. We also were noticing that the screws along the rub rail at the front port side were nearly almost out and the same at the rear starboard side, but our last boat would sometimes have screws come out, so we don't really know if this is a problem or not. We went a few trips with this noise and we were always trying to figure out where it was coming from, we thought it may be the power pole bouncing or swaying while going through the waves, but that just didn't make sense either. It wasn't until one day when we were really cleaning and waxing up the boat that we noticed what looked like cracks forming under the hull on the outside of the boat. These cracks were 18-30" in length running up and down the outside bottom of the hull, two cracks on each side of the boat. We jumped inside the boat and opened up a floor hatch where you can see down to the bare hull and stringers. Well, where the stringers met the hull, there was what looked like cracks, but hard to really see if it was cracked or just some glue that had dried and cracked along the seams where the stringers attach to the hull. On our next trip out we made sure to pay attention to this area to see if there is any movement, which there was even with gentle waves of the bay. The hull would separate from the stringer up to about 1/4" just riding on pretty silky water. When there was chop, it would separate even more, so we knew that this is what we were hearing and feeling, so we brought the boat back home. When we got home, we started looking in all the hatches where we could see to the stringers and at every location the same cracks appeared.


    This is when we brought the boat back to the dealer(January 2017), and they called Nautic Star and had the boat delivered back to the manufacturer. Nautic Star received the boat, and we hear from our dealer that they are replacing the entire boat. Awesome! Well a few weeks go by and we haven't heard anything, so we give the dealer a call and now Nautic Star said that the hull will be replaced, but not the cap. I called my dealer, and asked why not the cap since it seems like the cap had to be taking more of a beating than what it was supposed to be. We were all taught for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and since the cap is attached to the stringers that were slamming the hull so hard that the hull started to crack, it seems to me that the cap must have went through a good bit of stress as well and should be replaced to be safe. The dealer agreed that they should probably replace the cap as well. We asked how we could compromise and replace the cap as well. We were told that it would be $4,000 to replace the cap. We told our dealer, that the price was high but do not continue with putting the old cap back on as we would like to think about it. We thought about it and was going to see if they could drop the price a little. I also posted a similar thread on thehulltruth.com, to see if we should have any worries about how Nautic Star was going to proceed with only replacing the hull. I found out on there that another customer went through similar trouble, and now his cap is cracking throughout his boat, and it started immediately once getting it back from Nautic Star. We call our dealer to tell them that we DEFINITELY don't want the old cap back now, and we found out that the old cap was already installed on the boat WITHOUT telling us! This was extremely frustrating news especially since this was done without notifying us and the communications to us from our dealer and Nautic Star has been very very poor so far, especially when talking about how much this boat has cost us and the inconvenience of not having a boat to go fishing in. The boat was in repair from mid January-mid to late February if not March. (I have the times written down, but not in front of me)


    So, at this point we are livid on how this entire process has went down. Prior to getting the boat back to the dealer, we asked for our 100 hour service be done free of charge, and we ask for an extended warranty on the cap in case it has the same issues as the other customer has experienced. The Nautic Star rep mentioned that wasn't a problem and he'll get something typed up. This extended warranty was talked about quite a few times between us and the dealer and us and the rep. Well when the boat gets back to the dealer, and they finish installed all our equipment, they act as they forgotten all about the warranty, so we had to wait longer to pick up the boat. We probably could have picked it up prior to receiving the paperwork, but we wanted to be sure it was there, as I'm sure some of you understand.


    Now, the boat is back in our possession. I bring it on its "maiden" trip with the new hull, old cap combo. I stayed in the cove area of Vermillion Bay, since the wind was kicking pretty good anywhere else. I hit some waves, but nothing larger than jon boats wave. When I get home, I begin cleaning up the boat to perfection as we always do, and guess what I find, CRACKS! This infuriated me and I called my dealer immediately, and they said that they had a fiberglass guy that could fix them, which is nice but expected. I told them that this worries me, since this is like the horror story of the other customer. I asked if I needed to repair immediately, he said no don't worry about it, continue to fish. I bring it out on trip #2. This day was probably the smoothest day of fishing, I've ever been on. It was glassy the entire day, so glassy that my dad, and two other gentlemen rode on the front deck of the boat while underway. The biggest wave we hit that day may have been from a pelican diving. IT WAS SMOOTH!! Well, when we get home, we start cleaning the boat up again, and low and behold several new sets of cracks throughout the boat. This isn't looking good folks. The third trip was a similar experience to that as well.


    We called our dealer again and expressed our disappointment, and what we believe should happen, which would be an entire new boat yet again. I do not see how this cap could be at the same structural integrity now as what it was when we gave it to Nautic Star if we are experiencing this kind of cracking immediately upon arrival of the "new" boat.


    Our status as of now: Continue using the boat at its current state. We have notified the dealer, and sent an email to Nautic Star about our concerns and beliefs. We are awaiting to hear back from either to see how this will be handled. In order to keep this post as honest as can be, I will update you whenever we find out how this situation is going to be handled.






    I do have pictures of the stringers separating throughout the boat on thehulltruth post, but I don't have any of the cracking with me. A quick description would be that there are several sets of 1" to 4-5" cracks at various points of the cap. thehulltruth post is here: http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...r-defects.html

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    I'm really looking forward to reading this. I'm going to get a hot cup and scroll back up.

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    Get rid of the boat now. Your boat should not be cracking like that.

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    Run it and beat it up while you can. Get you a new cap this winter

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    Big boats can equal big problems.
    2004 Stratos 200 Pro XL / Yamaha VMax 225

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    I agree with the above post that said to get rid of it now--afraid you are in for nothing but more problems

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    Glad you posted this been thinking lately of getting a bay boat as I spend winter in Florida and Nautic Star was one of the brands I had been considering now not so much. Best of luck to you getting this matter resolved.

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    I never have really understood how a boat company could put a old cap on a new hull cheaper than just replacing it all. Maybe it is easier than swapping out all of the components on old top cap over to the new hull. Just seems like it wouldn't be worth it to me for a company to do that. Hope you get your issues resolved.

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    I've never sued anybody, but, in your case...I'd be trying to find an attorney who deals with this sort of "Lemon law" type situation, just in case.

    Nearly every boat (over 25, sail and power) that I've bought over the last 50 years has been used. One new one, ...and it turned out alright. They ranged in size from 27 feet to 11 feet.

    I've recently considered replacing my current little tinny with a new particular brand of fiberglass boat. After reading the horror stories that some new owners have reported, THAT brand is being skipped.

    I think I'll stay with what I have, just to avoid the problems so often posted on the web. With what they charge for boats these days, one would think that the manufacturers would stand behind their products immediately.

    The WEB is our only defense, I guess.
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    Just wanted to update the situation. We spoke to Nautic Star yesterday, and they are now negotiating how they can make us happy. They said that they would replace the cap with a new one, which we didn't know was possible since when they replaced our hull, they had to cut into the hull to remove the cap. We are still in debate on exactly what we should do, but it seems Nautic Star is going to come around and do us right. I just wanted to let everyone know. And also it seems that by posting this story on facebook is what got them talking to us. So always remember that social media can definitely be your friend.

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    Time to get rid of it.

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    Insurance and mysterious electrical fire.
    No one can be wrong that often so it has to be deliberate.

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    Wow remind me to never buy a nautic star

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    For whatever reason... it sounds that they are, now, trying to do the right thing. You are correct, social media tips the scale towards the consumer. richg99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bass Tard View Post
    Insurance and mysterious electrical fire.
    there ya go,,, a little insurance fraud to make the situation better


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    *****UPDATE 05/31/17***** Nautic Star contacted us to tell us that they can replace the old cap with a brand new one. We did not know this option was a possibility since the last time they had removed the old cap, they cut the hull in order to get it off. We are still working out the details, but they have been in better contact with us. I think posting on social media is what got them to move in our direction.

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    I would demand a whole new hull and cap with all of your current equipment.

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    I think I would just tell them to keep it . I wouldn't want a boat that has been assembled and reassembled several times to address quality control concerns. If you have to accept them repairing it I think I would ask them for some consideration regarding deprivation of use. collect as much as you can since you have basically lost a significant part of the 2017 season. After you settle the deprivation issue, sell the boat immediately and move on.
    GETFISHED !!!

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    My brother had an issue similar back in 2001 with his nitro. A stringer busted loose and the cap would move. They gave him a whole new 2006 boat and put all of his equipment on it.

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    Give them back your boat, make some kind of settlement even if you have to take a loss. Let it be somebody elses problem, you will never sleep nights while owning that boat.

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