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    Best Settings for Livescope Video - Hope this helps someone

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    John Soukup, owner of TheBassTank.comand professional bass and crappie tournament angler, is one of the most knowledgeable anglers of Garmin LiveScope. He was one of the first guys in the nation to have it and he's seen all the applications for bass and crappie. He can practically apply the knowledge of these technologies to catch more fish as well as address any of the common install and usages issues anglers will have through his years of installs and troubleshooting.
    We asked Soukup to give us a rundown of the 10 best settings for Garmin LiveScope to help anglers get the best looking picture on their units, and be able to see the fish, their lures and the cover in all fishing situations.
    Here are the 10 settings and we'll give you link next to the title to the specific place in the video where he talks about each specific setting.

    1. Noise Reject
    Noise reject helps filter the information that is coming into your unit from your LiveScope processor and transducer. When you have it turned off you'll see a lot of clutter on the screen. You will want a little clutter to filter through because you want to be able to see your line and small jigs on the screen and you need some of the information to pass through. But the Noise Reject setting at high will eliminated a lot of unwanted clutter.
    To set it go to your LiveScope screen and choose Menu > Sonar Setup > Noise Reject and choose High.
    2. TVG
    TVG stands for Time Variable Gain. This is filter information top to bottom to let you see further into the water. When you're in water less than 15 feet deep, you'll want to set TVG to off as it will filter too much out on the top part of the water column and you could miss some fish up there. Deeper than that and you can start with low.
    To set it. Go to your Livescope Screen and choose Menu > Sonar Setup > TVG and choose OFF.
    3. Color Gain
    Color Gain is a way to set the intensity of just the objects that Livescope will detect. Instead of pumping up the gain and contrast of the whole screen, color gain just pumps up the fish, brush, your lure and other objects in the water. So this is a setting you can turn way up if you're having a hard time seeing fish or your lure at a distance. Soukup talks about his favorite settings in the video above, but each person needs to find their happy medium for where they fish.
    To set it, go to your LiveScope Screen and choose Menu > Sonar Setup > Appearance > Color Gain. It defaults around 50 and Soukup often runs his up to 83 or 84 to really make those returns stand out on the screen.
    4. Gain
    After you get Noise Reject, TVG and Color Gain adjusted, then you can start tweaking your Gain up and down to see how much clutter you like cleared or showing to make sure you see the cover, the fish and your lure if necessary to make the most precise presentations to the fish. This is truly a user preference and you will find at times you will turn it up and other times you'll turn it down as you change locations and depth. To set it go to your LiveScope Screen and down at the bottom towards the right you'll see Gain. You can click the + or - to increase and decrease your Gain.

    5. Color Scheme

    Everyone sees a little differently. It's this way on Marine Electronics for sure. Some folks see amber better while some see blue better. Sometimes on a cloudy day, one palette draws a better picture than another for different people. So that's why there are so many options. Soukup was a big fan of Black Emerald when he was here fishing the Crappie Masters tournament on Kentucky Lake looking for crappie in stake beds and brush piles that were covered in shad fry. I like the Blue and the Amber palettes.
    To set it, go to your LiveScope screen and choose Menu > Sonar Setup > Appearance > Color Scheme. Then choose the color palette that you can best see everything with on that body of water.
    6. Range

    Range understanding is critical to distinguishing not only species of fish but size of same species of fish. So if you're hunting bigger crappie and not wanting to cull through a lot of little ones, you can learn what they look like by keeping your range in close and keeping it consistent. Same with your depth. As you stretch and constrict your screen sideways (range) and up and down (depth) you change the scale and detail LiveScope can display.
    Soukup has some good feedback on how far out to use Range in the video above.
    To set Range, go to your LiveScope screen. At the bottom left is the Range option. You can expand out or pull it back in.
    Usually I stay between 25 and 50. I use 25 when I'm fishing for a specific fish on the screen. I use 50 when I'm trying to see a piece of cover before I get on it or if I want to sit off a school and make sure my bait is landing in the right place every time.

    7. Depth

    Like Range, keeping your depth consistent helps identify fish and how big the fish are before you ever put a lure in their face. Soukup recommends keep the depth setting on manual so the screen won't auto range in and out. Then set the depth to 3 or 4 feet deeper than the depth you're in. That will keep the menu items out of the way and below what you want to see on the screen.
    To Set Depth, go to your LiveScope screen and choose, Menu > Depth Range then select a depth a few feet deeper than where you're fishing.
    8. Bottom Fill & Trails

    When you are fishing for fish that are hunkering on the bottom, something Walleye often do, you might want to use the Bottom Fill and Trails features.
    To set these, go to your LiveScope Screen. Then choose Menu > Sonar Setup > Appearance > Bottom Fill or Trails. See a more detailed explanation of what each does in the video above.

    9. Orientation (Perspective Mode):

    You bought the new Perspective Mode Mount and are having trouble with it auto sensing and showing you the new perspective mode. Turn the transducer to Perspective mode. Then go to your unit and on the LiveScope screen choose Menu > Sonar Setup >Installation > Orientation and choose Perspective. Or set to Auto and it should autosense when you move the transducer.
    10. Transmit (overheating fix):

    If you are having issues with Panoptix shutting off because the transducer is overheating while it's on the deck in the hot scorching summer heat. You can fix this by turning the transmit off while the Panoptix LiveScope transducer is out of the water.
    To turn it off, go to Menu > Transmit > Off.
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    Awesome info, thanks for sharing. I’m still trying to fine tune mine.

    I found this video helpful to initially set things up. It’s from Garmin.

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    Interesting. Noise Rejection on High. I would not do that.
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    Just making comment so I can find this again when I get home from work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    Interesting. Noise Rejection on High. I would not do that.
    Can you tell us why? I am still trying to learn my equipment.

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    Just did the 2.41 update today, changed my settings to John Soukup settings, going to try and get on the water tomorrow.

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    I don't mind my settings but I'll give it a shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMantle View Post
    Can you tell us why? I am still trying to learn my equipment.
    Noise Rejection and TVG are both filters. The problem comes with the ability of the software to accurately identify what is "noise" and subsequently hide it. Garmin has acknowledged that when Noise Rejection is on Medium, weak returns may not display. We all have an affinity for a clean screen but when you are cleaning it, you may just clean the returns for some fish too. One thing I've suggested repeatedly, that I have yet to see anyone post that they did it, is to tie a series of jigs (3 or 4) at different depths under a floating jug and get back away from it. It will be on your water and is an exceptional learning experience to see how adjusting settings affect the returns. You can easily recognize them as they are hanging in a straight line. You know where they are because you can see the jug. If you have it adjusted so that you can see an 1/8 oz jig that should give you confidence that it will also show you fish, if they are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    Noise Rejection and TVG are both filters. The problem comes with the ability of the software to accurately identify what is "noise" and subsequently hide it. Garmin has acknowledged that when Noise Rejection is on Medium, weak returns may not display. We all have an affinity for a clean screen but when you are cleaning it, you may just clean the returns for some fish too. One thing I've suggested repeatedly, that I have yet to see anyone post that they did it, is to tie a series of jigs (3 or 4) at different depths under a floating jug and get back away from it. It will be on your water and is an exceptional learning experience to see how adjusting settings affect the returns. You can easily recognize them as they are hanging in a straight line. You know where they are because you can see the jug. If you have it adjusted so that you can see an 1/8 oz jig that should give you confidence that it will also show you fish, if they are there.
    Excellent Idea. I have been wanting to pull the trigger on a livescope but have been holding off due to the recent negativity lately regarding ghost tree and brushpiles disappearing etc.
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    good post, mark!
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    On stock settings, I can see the tiny swivel I tie to 6lb Nanofil before my leader. Maybe I shouldn't change anything.

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    Sounds like a homerun.
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    On stock settings, I can see the tiny swivel I tie to 6lb Nanofil before my leader.
    You are almost there .

    Try tweaking some more until you can see the loops and get what looks like a vertical infinity symbol.




    Just kidding, sounds like you have it dialed in very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChampionDon View Post
    regarding ghost tree
    Ghost tree has ways been there. I just got LS in March and at first its there but just have to figure out how to adjust it out. Ive done it several times with no issues....

    I wouldnt be scared to get one today if id be buying..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChampionDon View Post
    Excellent Idea. I have been wanting to pull the trigger on a livescope but have been holding off due to the recent negativity lately regarding ghost tree and brushpiles disappearing etc.

    I had ghost tree on mine. Came with 2.33 iirc and I updated it to 2.41. Didn’t help that problem but I was able to tweak the settings to mostly remove it.

    I felt that it severely gimped the unit so I downgraded to 2.2. It’s back to all it’s glory that everyone raved about and the ghost tree is gone. Note: I’m also using Garmins 0 degree mount which many say can cause problems. Mines perfect.

    So you do have options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    Noise Rejection and TVG are both filters. The problem comes with the ability of the software to accurately identify what is "noise" and subsequently hide it. Garmin has acknowledged that when Noise Rejection is on Medium, weak returns may not display. We all have an affinity for a clean screen but when you are cleaning it, you may just clean the returns for some fish too. One thing I've suggested repeatedly, that I have yet to see anyone post that they did it, is to tie a series of jigs (3 or 4) at different depths under a floating jug and get back away from it. It will be on your water and is an exceptional learning experience to see how adjusting settings affect the returns. You can easily recognize them as they are hanging in a straight line. You know where they are because you can see the jug. If you have it adjusted so that you can see an 1/8 oz jig that should give you confidence that it will also show you fish, if they are there.
    or just use "old" Panoptix and see everything easier?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    I had ghost tree on mine. Came with 2.33 iirc and I updated it to 2.41. Didn’t help that problem but I was able to tweak the settings to mostly remove it.

    I felt that it severely gimped the unit so I downgraded to 2.2. It’s back to all it’s glory that everyone raved about and the ghost tree is gone. Note: I’m also using Garmins 0 degree mount which many say can cause problems. Mines perfect.

    So you do have options.
    How do you downgrade livescope to 2.2? Unit I have had 2.33 when new.

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    Just update to 2.41. v2.41 contains the same gain tables as 2.2 plus a minor improvement in the stitching. If you compare the two head to head I think you'll find v2.41 better, not dramatically better, but a hair better. I've been running both at the same time for a while now and displaying them side by side on a 16" screen. That's my 2 cents. And just for the record, I do switch the transducers back and forth on the GLS10 boxes to make the comparisons. You have almost the same thing with v2.33. It's v2.30 to avoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandbassslayer View Post
    How do you downgrade livescope to 2.2? Unit I have had 2.33 when new.
    I downloaded the old update that someone had shared on here. You just do a forced update and it will install the old version. Reset defaults before and after. I probably still have the link I can share if you want it. My unit is a 102sv - the update covers all the echo series units.

    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    Just update to 2.41. v2.41 contains the same gain tables as 2.2 plus a minor improvement in the stitching. If you compare the two head to head I think you'll find v2.41 better, not dramatically better, but a hair better. I've been running both at the same time for a while now and displaying them side by side on a 16" screen. That's my 2 cents. And just for the record, I do switch the transducers back and forth on the GLS10 boxes to make the comparisons. You have almost the same thing with v2.33. It's v2.30 to avoid.
    That hasn’t been my experience. The gains were better but not the same and I had to use a high noise reject to mostly
    eliminate the ghost tree which had the nasty side effect of filtering out small returns that weren’t noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    Just update to 2.41. v2.41 contains the same gain tables as 2.2 plus a minor improvement in the stitching. If you compare the two head to head I think you'll find v2.41 better, not dramatically better, but a hair better. I've been running both at the same time for a while now and displaying them side by side on a 16" screen. That's my 2 cents. And just for the record, I do switch the transducers back and forth on the GLS10 boxes to make the comparisons. You have almost the same thing with v2.33. It's v2.30 to avoid.
    2.41 was an improvement over 2.33, I will stick with it. Although frustrating to see fish look at my jig and keep on going....Thanks!

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