I have noticed very few used Yamaha engines for sale on the used motor site. Anybody have a reason. Is there that many more mercs out there ?
I have noticed very few used Yamaha engines for sale on the used motor site. Anybody have a reason. Is there that many more mercs out there ?
Considering Mercury owns the us market you will see less of the Yamaha motors
You never see a Suzuki or Honda
I have seen some Yamahas but right now there is a whole lot of older HPDI’s on their last leg so as soon a good used one is availible its snatched up quickly
My HPDI popped two months ago and I spent some time trying to buy a replacement and its slim pickins right now and most are in rough shape
I found one that had been listed less than two days and when I contacted him he already had a buyer on the first day
"The handicapped angler"
Cause the Yamaha's get snatched up quick.
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Because everyone is selling their Mercury to buy a Yamaha.
Do they sell a lot more mercury engines.
I'm willing to bet money that in the bass boat world there's more black motors than everything else combined.
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Since this is a fairly open topic at this point I’m gonna ask a couple questions. None of these are loaded, just curiosity and wondering. I don’t disagree with you, but do you think it’s because many brands only sell boats with the Mercury? If not do you think Mercury is just kind of like Ford where well my dad had one, my dads dad had one, so I’ll get one? Don’t get me wrong, I know they have made a good product for a long time, they like Yamaha have had some ups and downs, made a dud here and there so to speak. Personally I would pick a boat brand and take whatever motor it comes with, but it would be nice to have a motor choice.Originally Posted by Highcentered
2008 Skeeter 21I. Yamaha 250 Series II.
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Go to the salt, pontoon, pleasure boat world and you are hard pressed to find a Mercury. I'd bet there are way more pontoons, center consoles and pleasure boats sold than bass. A bass boat dealer told me a few years ago that they sold 10-1 Pro XS two strokes to a SHO because at the time the price difference. Said for some that 2-3k difference meant getting approved for a loan or not. I don't know what the money difference is now between the merc 4 stroke and SHO. And merc offers dealer incentives and puts everybody and they're brother on the Pro Team.
Last edited by GOTTA BIG SACK; 09-29-2023 at 09:23 AM.
2021 Skeeter ZX150
2020 Sea Doo GTI se 170
Mercury Pros are getting deals on motors so they either replace with new every year or sell the new one.
Mercury offers dealer and boat manufactures a "Preferred Status" if they exclusively sell mercury motors
Meaning they get a big discount on motors, parts and consumables that make it worth their while to just sell mercury motors
Many boat brands don’t limit the brand of motor you can put on their boats but the boat maybe sold at a preferred dealer so its gets a mercury anyways
Yamaha had to buy several boat brands just to get a foothold in the US market
Outside the US Yamaha holds the largest market share but in the US mercury is king
Last but not least Yamaha had some serious supply issues during the pandemic more so than mercury I remember trying to find a part and was told the only place I could order one at that time was direct from Japan and it would take months to get it I had to buy a used one off ebay until the new one showed up
"The handicapped angler"
Tournament seen down here 80% boats are mercury. I'd imagine with high interest rates going on you prolly will see less engines, less people repowering.
Bryan McDonough
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Back when the ol optipop came out you couldn't give away a boat with a mercury on it until the Pro XS model. Crazy how it shifts.
2021 Skeeter ZX150
2020 Sea Doo GTI se 170
Mercury has much more market share in US freshwater than the other brands and also a very extensive dealer network. This is regional specific though as some markets are dominated by Merc and others are the exact opposite.
Lead time on a loose engine is much faster than they were this time last year so you are seeing a lot of repowering and people selling their used engines, which are likely 2 strokes. If I was a single man, I would be ordering a new engine for repower myself.
That was never was a problem. Sold many of my boats with Optis, all sold superfast. with the exception of my 08, and people were not buying boats in 09. Been proven so many times HPDI vs Opti similar failure rates. Course when one owns the majority of market share that same rate applied to larger number is more units.
Not sure what shift happened? Yamahas just have never had a majority market share in the freshwater game. Not sure why.
Heck if history is a cue, wonder if any remembers the yamaha ProV's, and they were a very small market share at that time. Those lower Units were very problematic. Obviously 30 years ago, so it does not apply to today. No sense living in the past.
Bryan McDonough
2023 Nitro Z21 XL
Nitro Team
Mercury sells more
In my part of the world, Mercury owns the pontoon market also. Small fishing boats are mostly Mercury as well. 10-1 Mercruiser to Volvo also.
It's a huge factor, especially with white river marine group boats only selling boats with mercury on them. I love my mercury 4 stroke so far, but if I had a choice at the time I got my boat I likely would've went with the more proven (at the time) yamaha.
The other factor is just availability. Guy orders a basscat and he's told he's 8 weeks out with a mercury or a year out with a yamaha, he's likely going mercury.
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Mercury owns LOZ also. Tritoons, pleasure boats, bass boats, center consoles and the catamaran hulls with outboards.
2001 ChampioN 206 Yamaha 225
10-15 years ago. Over 90 % of bass boats in a tournament had Mercs. Been slowly changing
Mercury owns the freshwater market
Yamaha owns saltwater market
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