tracker 18 tournament

[BBW]

what is a 2005 tracker 18 tournament with 90 hp 2 stroke worth only viewed pictures it looks clean

[Great Scott]

Price would depend on TM and electronics. I sold
a 2005 w/a 2012 Optimax 125HP w/56hrs, Ulterra 80lb and 2 Lowrance
10" graphs all accessories were virtually new for $16,500 that was in 2019.
LDS

[bassfisher444]

Not much with a 90 on it, way undersized for that boat.

[Highcentered]

Not much with a 90 on it, way undersized for that boat.

Not any different from people running a 250 on a boat rated for 300hp or more. Believe it or not, some people don't care if a boat is maxed out or not as long as the motor gets them down the lake at a reasonable speed FOR THEM.

[bassfisher444]

Not any different from people running a 250 on a boat rated for 300hp or more. Believe it or not, some people don't care if a boat is maxed out or not as long as the motor gets them down the lake at a reasonable speed FOR THEM.

I wouldn't do that either, unless I fished a tournament circuit that was limited to a 250 then I would get the smallest boat you could get with a 250 on it. Getting a boat with a 90 on it that is rated for a 150 is not a good Idea, there is a reason he is selling if for a "good deal". There is 0 advantage to under powering a boat, an adequately powered one performs better in every way. Your wasting money on a hull of you don't have it powered to get the best performance out of it.

[Great Scott]

This is my INSANE investment in a TV 18. Its a 2008
it had a 90 and entry level TM and Electronics. I sold all
of that and had the interior refurbished. New seat bases and posts
along w/all seats. Front Trailer boarding steps. New trailer bunks
plus custom side guides. New Aluminum wheel/tires. New winch strap
and rear tie downs. The rest of the upgrades are listed in my signature.
The motor has approx 1hr on it. I dont recommend anyone doing this but every
part of this rig other than trailer and boat metal is 2022. I have in excess
of 36K invested, this included the initial 12.5 that I paid up front for the rig.
At 76 I will never use that amount out plus if I sold it today, It would be at
a great loss. Just a bought lesson. LDS

OH BTW the 90 HP is not an inadequate motor for the TV 18. It preforms well.
These hulls actually do not use bigger HP adequately because they are a NON PAD hull.

[CincyGus]

Great Scott, If it's how you want it, It's never a great loss. We all pay for things as we go in life. I had horses for 15 years when I was young. Trailered them everywhere within 500 miles of my home with my wife and/or friends and trail rode 6-8 hours a day. The Ozarks, Tn, Ky, In, Oh. At least 10 days straight the second week of October to ride some of the most beautiful fall colors anyone has ever witnessed. I switched to fishing more heavily after a back injury forced me to get out of the horsing around I had been doing. Bought all kinds of fishing gear and have been lucky enough to have a few friends with boats that were looking for back seaters on occasion and spent many a day on the bank. Bought a 175TXW in 2020 has my first boat and just recently sold it and am awaiting delivery of a 2023 Targa V-19 w/ a 200hp. Decking it out with a Garmin Force TM, a 106sv and 2-93sv's, 3 Ionic Lithium TM batteries and a 125ah Ionic Starting battery, along with a lot of other less but not inexpensive gear. My point for telling you all this is to look at it as paying your way. If you're using it and having a good time, your just buying enjoyment. When I go to the casino once a year, I set a limit and I go and have fun. If I win I'm grinning and feel like I came out way ahead. If I lose, I feel like I paid for the fun and excitement. But I never feel like I lost because I enjoyed the risk, the ups and downs, the excitement, the thrill. So don't ever feel bad about paying for enjoyment, Just make sure you use it enough to get that out of it. Tight Lines my friend!

[bassfisher444]

OH BTW the 90 HP is not an inadequate motor for the TV 18. It preforms well.
These hulls actually do not use bigger HP adequately because they are a NON PAD hull.

That's pure nonsense, a non pad hull benefits from maxing out the HP just like a non pad hull does. The 195 is a non pad hull and it will run 60 MPH with a 150 on it, a 90 it will hardly do 45 and struggles to get on plane.

[Great Scott]

That's pure nonsense, a non pad hull benefits from maxing out the HP just like a non pad hull does. The 195 is a non pad hull and it will run 60 MPH with a 150 on it, a 90 it will hardly do 45 and struggles to get on plane.

BTW a TV18 and a 195 are different in hull design and weight.

Speed and performance fall in 2 different categories in any hull design. Performance is hole shot and overall handling. The 90 has a gear ratio that make the hole shot not great but very good, according to your load. Top end is 42 and the boat handles well. I have owned these boats w/the 90, and a 125 Optimax, now the 150 4S. BTW the hole shot was poor w/the 125 vs the 90 until I made some changes. Top speed w/3 blade was 49 w/poor holeshot and with a 4 blade which improved the hole Shot and w/good overall handling was 47. For ever HP that you add on a non pad hull your gain is far less than a pad hull. My current boat has a 150 4S. The motor is not on a Jack Plate so I expect 55 plus on this setup. I have not broke this engine in yet. The people who claim 60 on these hulls have to have them on a plate, which w/the 4S weight puts undue stress on the transom. The weight of the 4S was not in consideration when these boats were made.
I have owned several brands of Aluminum, all non pad, and have found there is a point on any of these hulls where adding HP has had no positive effect as far as speed. Extra HP and weigh can change handling. Your results may vary. LDS

[bassfisher444]

BTW a TV18 and a 195 are different in hull design and weight.

Speed and performance fall in 2 different categories in any hull design. Performance is hole shot and overall handling. The 90 has a gear ratio that make the hole shot not great but very good, according to your load. Top end is 42 and the boat handles well. I have owned these boats w/the 90, and a 125 Optimax, now the 150 4S. BTW the hole shot was poor w/the 125 vs the 90 until I made some changes. Top speed w/3 blade was 49 w/poor holeshot and with a 4 blade which improved the hole Shot and w/good overall handling was 47. For ever HP that you add on a non pad hull your gain is far less than a pad hull. My current boat has a 150 4S. The motor is not on a Jack Plate so I expect 55 plus on this setup. I have not broke this engine in yet. The people who claim 60 on these hulls have to have them on a plate, which w/the 4S weight puts undue stress on the transom. The weight of the 4S was not in consideration when these boats were made.
I have owned several brands of Aluminum, all non pad, and have found there is a point on any of these hulls where adding HP has had no positive effect as far as speed. Extra HP and weigh can change handling. Your results may vary. LDS

Adding 25 hp to my non pad hull got my 4-5 MPH better top end and quicker hole shot. No way would I ever have one that is underpowered by 60 hp. There is no reason not to max out the HP, it performs better in every way. Also the 150 4 stroke is only 25 lbs heavier than the 150 Optimax.

[Highcentered]

Adding 25 hp to my non pad hull got my 4-5 MPH better top end and quicker hole shot. No way would I ever have one that is underpowered by 60 hp. There is no reason not to max out the HP, it performs better in every way. Also the 150 4 stroke is only 25 lbs heavier than the 150 Optimax.

Are people running a 250 on a boat rated for 300 or more stupid for not maxing out the hp on those boats? According to you they're underpowering their boat because they don't have a 300? 350? 450?!? Setup is everything. As long as the owner is happy with their results who gives a damn what motor is on it?

[bassfisher444]

Are people running a 250 on a boat rated for 300 or more stupid for not maxing out the hp on those boats? According to you they're underpowering their boat because they don't have a 300? 350? 450?!? Setup is everything. As long as the owner is happy with their results who gives a damn what motor is on it?

Already answered in post #5.

[CincyGus]

No their not stupid. They built their boat the way they wanted it. Bassfisher444 is one of those guys that believes there is one way to do things and everything else is wrong. Here's two reasons to not max the HP Bassfisher444. Cost and desire. That extra 50-60HP to get the Max HP for a boat isn't free. Actually pretty expensive to jump 25hp-50hp for maybe 5-10 mph difference. Secondly, maybe there are people that don't give a damn about doing 50mph in a boat and 30-40 is the perfect speed for them? Ever think someone's got different goals than you when they buy a boat or does everyone have to conform to your way of thinking. Maybe people are wasting their money on a motor (not a hull) if they won't ever go WOT? Maybe they'd rather spend that 5k-8k they saved to buy electronics or lithium batteries or upgrade their tow vehicle. There's more than one way to go about things that are okay, regardless of what some forum "expert" that loves arguing and debating anyone that disagrees with him says.

[bassfisher444]

No their not stupid. They built their boat the way they wanted it. Bassfisher444 is one of those guys that believes there is one way to do things and everything else is wrong. Here's two reasons to not max the HP Bassfisher444. Cost and desire. That extra 50-60HP to get the Max HP for a boat isn't free. Actually pretty expensive to jump 25hp-50hp for maybe 5-10 mph difference. It is worth every penny for the better performance you get not just speed.Secondly, maybe there are people that don't give a damn about doing 50mph in a boat and 30-40 is the perfect speed for them? Great going 40 mph at part throttle with the bigger motor will be more efficient than going 40 mph wide open with a smaller motor, and it will handle better and get on plane quicker, there is more to performance than just top speed. Ever think someone's got different goals than you when they buy a boat or does everyone have to conform to your way of thinking. Maybe people are wasting their money on a motor (not a hull) if they won't ever go WOT?Not a waste at all see above, also it is often hard to sell an underpowered boat. Maybe they'd rather spend that 5k-8k they saved to buy electronics or lithium batteries or upgrade their tow vehicle.You can always upgrade that stuff later as you can afford it, getting the biggest motor is the most important thing when buying a boat because it is far more expensive to upgrade that later than it is to buy electronics.
There's more than one way to go about things that are okay, regardless of what some forum "expert" that loves arguing and debating anyone that disagrees with him says.

Responses in blue.

[CincyGus]

Responses in blue.

LOL, I rest my case.

[Highcentered]

No their not stupid. They built their boat the way they wanted it. Bassfisher444 is one of those guys that believes there is one way to do things and everything else is wrong. Here's two reasons to not max the HP Bassfisher444. Cost and desire. That extra 50-60HP to get the Max HP for a boat isn't free. Actually pretty expensive to jump 25hp-50hp for maybe 5-10 mph difference. Secondly, maybe there are people that don't give a damn about doing 50mph in a boat and 30-40 is the perfect speed for them? Ever think someone's got different goals than you when they buy a boat or does everyone have to conform to your way of thinking. Maybe people are wasting their money on a motor (not a hull) if they won't ever go WOT? Maybe they'd rather spend that 5k-8k they saved to buy electronics or lithium batteries or upgrade their tow vehicle. There's more than one way to go about things that are okay, regardless of what some forum "expert" that loves arguing and debating anyone that disagrees with him says.

His head would have exploded if I would have bought an Xpress X18 with a 115 instead of the 150hp. That jump to a 150hp is a big chunk of change. I know my local dealer used to rig most of his X18's with a 115hp to sell as a more budget friendly and very capable option but that might have changed since the new Hyperlift series came out as a more budget friendly option while still having a great layout. The old Hyperlift series was so outdated. I pick up my new H18 with a 115 SHO tomorrow and been told it's a 48-52mph boat. We'll see what it does with an Ultrex and way too much tackle on board. I bought it because it was time to upgrade from my 175txw. Someone's gonna get a VERY clean used boat when they buy it and hopefully they don't thrash it and rag it out. I wasn't afraid to run very rough water but I also made sure not to YEET it into an early grave.

[CincyGus]

I hear ya Highcentered. I just sold a 2020 175txw 60hp (30hp under max) which did 35-36mph and was plenty of motor and boat for my use on reservoir lakes that I fish. Took it to big lakes in Mn. and medium lakes in Oh and Ky. Pulled a tube behind it with 3 in the boat and one on the tube and did great. Had no problem selling it this spring and getting my price for it. I'm currently 5 weeks into waiting for my Targa V-19 200hp (25hp under max 225hp). It's gonna be a 45-48mph boat setup for fishing from everything I can gather from posts with the same setup. Plenty fast enough for me and should still be 38-40mph if I load it with 6 people for tubing or skiing outing. The extra $3200 to bump it to a 225hp was to me, just unnecessary to get to 50.5mph which is what I see those configured boats being reported as. To those that want that last touch of making the boat everything it can be, enjoy it if that's your goal as that's what's important. To claim that a boats not "adequately powered" because it runs 3-4 mph slower and will perform worse "in every way" vs. one that does that 3-4 mph faster is laughable. Both configurations are going to very capable, enjoyable experiences for what the large majority of us use them for which is fishing and family/friends fun time on the water.

[Slicefixer]

That's pure nonsense, a and renovatingnon pad hull benefits from maxing out the HP just like a non pad hull does. The 195 is a non pad hull and it will run 60 MPH with a 150 on it, a 90 it will hardly do 45 and struggles case.

Let's see where do I begin....

I own a Fisher Pro Hawk 180 that I performed a hull up restoration upon, including locating and renovating a dual axle trailer....400+ hours and 99.9% all by myself (everything but the inspection/servicing of the internals of the 125 Merc that's on it now). I'll attach a couple of pics so that you'll know I'm not FOS.

When I bought my boat it came with a 75hp ELPTO on the back. With 2 men @ 400#'s+, lots of gear, 30 gallons of fuel, ice chest loaded with drinks, etc she had NO problem getting on plane....Z E R O. Post my finishing the renovation she was 300#'s + heavier and still had NO problem getting on plane with the 75hp. She topped out at 36 to 38mph pre and 32 to 35mph post..... hence the upgrade to a 115 and then a 125 ELPTO (due to an engine fire regarding the 115). With both the 115 and then the 125hp she tops out at 43 - 44mph fully loaded (GPS). Which is more than adequate speed on the shallow, stumpy lakes I primarily fish in E TX and W/NW LA.

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So, with all of that said, your statement that the 90 on a TV18 "struggles to get on plane" with a 90hp strapped on the back is TOTAL and COMPLETE BS.

Next, your statement regarding the value of a Tracker TV18 with a 90hp strapped to the back as being "not much" REALLY perks my curiosity. Would you care to define "not much" for all of us...

[bassfisher444]

I hear ya Highcentered. I just sold a 2020 175txw 60hp (30hp under max) which did 35-36mph and was plenty of motor and boat for my use on reservoir lakes that I fish. Took it to big lakes in Mn. and medium lakes in Oh and Ky. Pulled a tube behind it with 3 in the boat and one on the tube and did great. Had no problem selling it this spring and getting my price for it. I'm currently 5 weeks into waiting for my Targa V-19 200hp (25hp under max 225hp). It's gonna be a 45-48mph boat setup for fishing from everything I can gather from posts with the same setup. Plenty fast enough for me and should still be 38-40mph if I load it with 6 people for tubing or skiing outing. The extra $3200 to bump it to a 225hp was to me, just unnecessary to get to 50.5mph which is what I see those configured boats being reported as. To those that want that last touch of making the boat everything it can be, enjoy it if that's your goal as that's what's important. To claim that a boats not "adequately powered" because it runs 3-4 mph slower and will perform worse "in every way" vs. one that does that 3-4 mph faster is laughable. Both configurations are going to very capable, enjoyable experiences for what the large majority of us use them for which is fishing and family/friends fun time on the water.

You have a deep V so it really doesn't matter what you do with the HP, it's not a bass boat. Also I find it laughable that no matter how much it get's explained you still can't wrap your head around the fact that there is far more to how a boat performs than just top speed, and a boat with a 150 would be far more than 3-4 MPH faster than the same boat with a 90 unless it is very poorly setup.

[Slicefixer]

It seems YOUR ignorance knows NO bounds.....

My hull is a SEMI deep V as is the TV18 .....17° deadrise.....

Morris bought Fisher and, along with Rick Clunn, used the Pro Hawk to develop the TV18. They are virtually the exact same hull. They developed the TV18 to prove that an aluminum tournament class bass boat could be created. Which of course, they did.....

To demonstrate this Clunn fished the Classic in his TV18 as well as several other tournaments. If you knew what you were talking about you'd already know all of this.

You'd also know that the TV18 is considered by many to be the best aluminum bass boat Tracker has ever produced. That's why they bring a premium (in good shape) and sell pretty quickly when they hit the open market. That's why I did so much due diligence and searching to locate my boat.

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