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    Quote Originally Posted by Asabove View Post
    Which increases global warming and is evil according to your side.
    He's trolling.

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    Ford anticipated this loss, as did Wall Street. Zero surprise factor.

    Now, back to the regularly scheduled BBC EV hand wringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bueller View Post
    Ford anticipated this loss, as did Wall Street. Zero surprise factor.

    Now, back to the regularly scheduled BBC EV hand wringing.
    Companies can use that one at the next shareholders meeting.

    Lost 2 billion, but we anticipated it, we are not surprised, so it’s OK.

    Do they still have to pay tax on the lost money, or is it one of those “tax loopholes” you guys talk about, where money flows directly from the government to the automakers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quillback View Post
    I know you're smarter than that.

    I wouldn't consider something that we exhale and plants use as a pollutant. It's certainly a greenhouse gas. it's provable in a lab and observable in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rid 05 198 View Post
    Your head line is a joke...
    "As everyone knows, EV startups lose money while they invest in capabilities, develop knowledge, build volume and gain share."
    Not my headline. It’s Fords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quillback View Post
    He's trolling.
    Definitely, it's what they do.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    The same reasons we started shutting down coal power plants and replacing them with natgas. Less pollution.

    EV’s don’t decrease pollution. They are, at best, a zero sum game with IC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    CO2 isn't a pollutant. It's a greenhouse gas.
    Isn’t CO2 what we humans exhale when we breath?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    Companies can use that one at the next shareholders meeting.

    Lost 2 billion, but we anticipated it, we are not surprised, so it’s OK.

    Do they still have to pay tax on the lost money, or is it one of those “tax loopholes” you guys talk about, where money flows directly from the government to the automakers?
    That’s exactly what they’ll say and do. And it won’t be a surprise because they showed a glide path last year and the year before that goes out at least 10 years and maybe 20 that guaranteed clearly shows expected losses for many years until they cross in to profitability with that line of business. They’ll further show how the business fared against their assumptions and forecasts and then adjust.

    I don’t know the answer to your tax question.

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    Good

    And im a ford guy
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    Did Ford drag their feet on EV R&D and now have to invest in a short amount of time to catch up?

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    Do most of these EV batteries still come from China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    Do most of these EV batteries still come from China?
    Michigan spent $715M of taxpayer™ $$$ a Chinese linked battery co.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/outrag...ccp-small-town

    We don't want the arm of the Chinese Communist Party in Michigan: Tudor Dixon
    Former Republican gubernatorial candidate Tudor Dixon blasted Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer Wednesday for moving forward with plans to allow $715 million dollars of taxpayer money to fund a Chinese Communist Party-linked business in the state.


    Gotion High tech-Co., a battery company based in Hefei, China, announced its plans last year for a roughly $2.4 billion electric vehicle battery plant in Big Rapids, Mich. that would bring an estimated 2,350 jobs to the state, according to a press release from Whitmer’s office.

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    Follow the science until it hurts, or helps your pockebook
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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    Isn’t CO2 what we humans exhale when we breath?
    Here's one definition of pollution. Does CO2 emitted by burning fuel of one type or anther qualify?

    pollution, also called environmental pollution, the addition of any substance (solid, liquid or gas) or any form of energy (such as heat, sound, or radioactvity) to the environment at a rate faster than it can be dispersed, diluted, decomposed, recycled, or stored in some harmless form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    The same reasons we started shutting down coal power plants and replacing them with natgas. Less pollution.
    People still believe that lie?
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    ^ Yep!

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    Love my Mustang MachE (company vehicle).
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    OK. Which one of you is driving this truck? https://insideevs.com/news/366799/ra...l-tesla-video/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBIGUNS View Post
    Love my Mustang MachE (company vehicle).
    How far can you get on a charge? Just curious.

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