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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by catdude28 View Post
    Whether it is junk, or the best ever troller made, one thing we know for sure is that it is NOT brushless. Just having the possibility of annoying interference is enough to keep me away from it in the future. Having had to deal with interference multiple times over the years, that would be a deal breaker for me. Not to mention the increased efficiency that a brushless motor affords.
    This is the exact reason why I went with a Lowrance. I wanted something with cable steering but I couldn’t get passed the fact the Tour Pro has a brushed motor.

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    #22
    My Tour Pro has been bullet proof like a Fortrex. Maybe more as the Fortrex could go thru bushings if abused.
    The interference is just a Motorguide thing in my experience. Always has more sonar interference on MG vs Minn Kota.

    But I’m not entirely convinced that a Tour Pro or Ultrex are lesser motors than the brushless ones. I’ve had and been in boats with minn kota motors with worn out seals. Lots of water inside and they ran fine for a long time. It was only when a bearing rusted away was the water intrusion noted. A quick clean and cheap parts and all was well.
    I recall seeing some pictures of a Garmin Force, looked like a cordless drill inside essentially. I wonder how they would hold up if water got in. And surely the parts are more expensive than MinnKota parts.

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    #23
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    That's about as disturbing as seeing old farts in Food Lion wearing Dale Jr hats , tees and sweatpants.

    It's a stupid sunfish that gets out pulled by any carp or cat any day of the week. Good grief!
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    I just cannot imagine how brushless would change my experience in any way. I get zero interference, I never run it on high, and I never get below 75% on my batteries.
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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by PMantle View Post
    I just cannot imagine how brushless would change my experience in any way. I get zero interference, I never run it on high, and I never get below 75% on my batteries.
    What electronics at the bow? External xducer mounted to the TM or using the UHD internal xducer?
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    Love mine. Spot lock is Precise, and the built in sonar is excellent. Quietest TM I’ve owned or fished around.
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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by King_Fish View Post
    What electronics at the bow? External xducer mounted to the TM or using the UHD internal xducer?
    1 Garmin 106 and running LVS34 and the internal Motorguide transducer.
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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 1GThompson View Post
    This is the exact reason why I went with a Lowrance. I wanted something with cable steering but I couldn’t get passed the fact the Tour Pro has a brushed motor.

    I had the opportunity to run a Lowrance Ghost for 4 consecutive days (I am a MG Tour Pro owner) - Observations and comparisons:

    -Did not see any more or less interference on electronics - Brushless vs Brushfull.
    -Ghost doesn't like grass very much. It wraps around prop and gets in gap between prop and motor. Blew breaker more than a few times when bound up; Tour Pro eats grass all day.
    -Ghost deploy and retract effort is 3x the lift effort of Tour Pro.
    -On higher thrust settings, Ghost electric steering requires you to set direction with pedal, then hit power. Otherwise it likes to throw you.
    -Tour Pro head is too large, Ghost better.
    -One is not markedly quieter than the other.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM64 View Post
    I had the opportunity to run a Lowrance Ghost for 4 consecutive days (I am a MG Tour Pro owner) - Observations and comparisons:

    -Did not see any more or less interference on electronics - Brushless vs Brushfull.
    -Ghost doesn't like grass very much. It wraps around prop and gets in gap between prop and motor. Blew breaker more than a few times when bound up; Tour Pro eats grass all day.
    -Ghost deploy and retract effort is 3x the lift effort of Tour Pro.
    -On higher thrust settings, Ghost electric steering requires you to set direction with pedal, then hit power. Otherwise it likes to throw you.
    -Tour Pro head is too large, Ghost better.
    -One is not markedly quieter than the other.
    Good data...
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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PMantle View Post
    1 Garmin 106 and running LVS34 and the internal Motorguide transducer.
    Very nice young man, very nice... I believe that is the direction i am heading as well, only w/ the 93SV.
    Obviously no sidescan with the internal UHD, correct?
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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by King_Fish View Post
    Very nice young man, very nice... I believe that is the direction i am heading as well, only w/ the 93SV.
    Obviously no sidescan with the internal UHD, correct?
    Correct. I do not use sidescan at the bow though.
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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Woody b View Post
    I've had mine for a little over a month. Several fishing trips. No problems so far. I love it. I replaced a Terrova.
    I'm still liking mine. I will say, I suspect IF you have a problem Motorguides customer service might be.....a problem. For some stupid reason I updated the software on mine. It had "G" level. I updated to their latest which is "H". Now, when I power the motor up it takes ~10 minutes to get a GPS fix. It was 30 seconds or less before. Not a big deal, I just power it up as soon as I arrive at the landing, instead of when I'm on the lake ready to use it. I emailed Motorguide, explained my problem and asked if there was a way I could download and reinstall the "G" level software. They said no, and advised me to perform a compass calibration to speed up it getting a GPS fix. IT NEEDS A GPS FIX TO PERFORM THE COMPASS CALIBRATION!!!! If I had a "real" problem I suspect I'd be on my own.

    It's powerful, easy on batteries, and works great. No interference, but the only transducer I have up front is Active Target.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Woody b View Post
    I'm still liking mine. I will say, I suspect IF you have a problem Motorguides customer service might be.....a problem. For some stupid reason I updated the software on mine. It had "G" level. I updated to their latest which is "H". Now, when I power the motor up it takes ~10 minutes to get a GPS fix. It was 30 seconds or less before. Not a big deal, I just power it up as soon as I arrive at the landing, instead of when I'm on the lake ready to use it. I emailed Motorguide, explained my problem and asked if there was a way I could download and reinstall the "G" level software. They said no, and advised me to perform a compass calibration to speed up it getting a GPS fix. IT NEEDS A GPS FIX TO PERFORM THE COMPASS CALIBRATION!!!! If I had a "real" problem I suspect I'd be on my own.

    It's powerful, easy on batteries, and works great. No interference, but the only transducer I have up front is Active Target.
    You are lucky that it at least gets a GPS signal eventually, mine never did at all.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Woody b View Post
    I'm still liking mine. I will say, I suspect IF you have a problem Motorguides customer service might be.....a problem. For some stupid reason I updated the software on mine. It had "G" level. I updated to their latest which is "H". Now, when I power the motor up it takes ~10 minutes to get a GPS fix. It was 30 seconds or less before. Not a big deal, I just power it up as soon as I arrive at the landing, instead of when I'm on the lake ready to use it. I emailed Motorguide, explained my problem and asked if there was a way I could download and reinstall the "G" level software. They said no, and advised me to perform a compass calibration to speed up it getting a GPS fix. IT NEEDS A GPS FIX TO PERFORM THE COMPASS CALIBRATION!!!! If I had a "real" problem I suspect I'd be on my own.

    It's powerful, easy on batteries, and works great. No interference, but the only transducer I have up front is Active Target.
    Don't deal with MG customer service!

    Go directly to the tech service link - service@motorguide.com. This is e-mail communication, but the tech folks have been VERY helpful and responsive, and I have been through a multitude of issues last year... All of which are resolved and I am a happy camper, the exception being the EMI that the motor spews... but i can use the internal UHD xducer to remedy that..
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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM64 View Post
    I had the opportunity to run a Lowrance Ghost for 4 consecutive days (I am a MG Tour Pro owner) - Observations and comparisons:

    -Did not see any more or less interference on electronics - Brushless vs Brushfull.
    -Ghost doesn't like grass very much. It wraps around prop and gets in gap between prop and motor. Blew breaker more than a few times when bound up; Tour Pro eats grass all day.
    -Ghost deploy and retract effort is 3x the lift effort of Tour Pro.
    -On higher thrust settings, Ghost electric steering requires you to set direction with pedal, then hit power. Otherwise it likes to throw you.
    -Tour Pro head is too large, Ghost better.
    -One is not markedly quieter than the other.
    I wasn’t trying to start a debate on which one is better. I only mentioned having a brushless motor as being a big deal to me… The entire world is going brushless simply because it’s better. It’s more efficient and no brushes to wear down.
    -I thought long and hard about which motor to go with and the Tour Pro was tops on my list for a while.
    However, I don’t think Lowrance is hard to deploy at all.
    -I don’t fish in weeds so not a big deal to me. I can see where that be for a lot of guys tho.
    -Another ability the Lowrance has that was huge to me is the ability to switch between 24 and 36v. I started with 24 but switched to 36v. So if I lose a lithium battery I can disconnect it, go 24v and still fish. That’s pretty cool imo.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by PMantle View Post
    I just cannot imagine how brushless would change my experience in any way. I get zero interference, I never run it on high, and I never get below 75% on my batteries.
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    I put one on my tracker 175 and it was a dud, MG sucked and wanted me to send a new out of the box broken trolling motor to a service center which is about 300 miles from me, but the vendor stepped up and sent me a new one which has been perfect. I use two ionic 50ah batteries which are small and easilly rigged into that tiny battery compartment. Plenty of power for two days of fishing between charges. Brushless would be cool for interference issues but a friend of mine has a lowrance ghost and nothing but issues, I guess every brand has a dud or two once in a while. The MG tour mount is as solid as it gets.

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    #38
    I have new motorguides on my stroker and on my basstracker running lowrance and garmin on the trolling motor with zero interference. Personally have always been a motorguide tour and OMC trolling motor fan myself. The new tour is much improved over the older version IMO. Everyone that has fished in either one of my boats have been impressed with the new motorguides.
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    #39
    My MG Tour Pro experience has been like Paul and some of the others here... very good after the firmware update.

    I get zero sonar interference on AT2 and 2D sonar images when running the motor. It stows and deploys with little effort. The mount and pedal are solid. It is quiet when turning and running... quieter than an Ultrex for sure. I run my 82# 24V on two group 27 lead batts and never run out of power but I don't fish grass and don't usually stand on the pedal. The head looks like a space ship I guess but honestly I do not notice it anymore. A 47-48" shaft might be a little better than the 45" in choppy conditions on my boat but 45" is great in calm water. The anchor lock is great in wind... it hunts a little at times in low to no wind but they all do as civilian GPS is only so accurate. It is a little lighter than the competing anchor lock TMs and a little less expensive.

    I like my MG Tour Pro just fine. It is not perfect for sure but it gets a bad rap. Not sure any of the other competing TMs would improve my total ownership experience.

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by catdude28 View Post
    Whether it is junk, or the best ever troller made, one thing we know for sure is that it is NOT brushless. Just having the possibility of annoying interference is enough to keep me away from it in the future. Having had to deal with interference multiple times over the years, that would be a deal breaker for me. Not to mention the increased efficiency that a brushless motor affords.
    I have the HD+ and my Garmin 94 UHD is plugged into the pedal, using the built-in CHIRP transducer. Zero interference with that setup. I still need to add another Garmin with Livescope. From what I've heard, there's no issue with interference with Livescope mounted on the shaft either.
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