Trailer lug nut torque.

[krindgen]

I'm thinking the placard on my Phoenix/MM trailer for lug nut torque may be high for aluminum wheels. I also put a light coating of anti-seize on the tapered mating surface of the nut.

[wmitch2]

80#'s on Aluminum and 95 on Steel wheels. I've run that for over 40 years now. Damn guys at the tire shop always want to do 120 !!! I make them do it my way. Over tightened lug nuts will stress the studs and lead to other problems.

[mactlman]

80#'s on Aluminum and 95 on Steel wheels. I've run that for over 40 years now. Damn guys at the tire shop always want to do 120 !!! I make them do it my way. Over tightened lug nuts will stress the studs and lead to other problems.

120 ft lbs is for 6 lug rims mostly 85-100 best for a 5 lug depending on the rim material

[Team Mud]

I'm a one grunt with large 4-way wrench.

I'm with you, I've been changing Car/truck/trailer wheels for over 45 years, I've never taken out the torque wrench and have never lost a wheel.

I also use anti-seize on all my wheels

[leonreno]

I’m a tighten hand tight with a 4 way lug wrench and then I step on it with one foot and use about a fourth of my weight, I weigh 270 so hopefully I’m putting about 75 lbs on the wrench, which should give me around 75ft/lbs since it’s about 12” from the center of the wrench. 13” steel wheels.

[mactlman]

I’m a tighten hand tight with a 4 way lug wrench and then I step on it with one foot and use about a fourth of my weight, I weigh 270 so hopefully I’m putting about 75 lbs on the wrench, which should give me around 75ft/lbs since it’s about 12” from the center of the wrench. 13” steel wheels.

don't think it works like you think it does but if you ok with it, so are we

[leonreno]

don't think it works like you think it does but if you ok with it, so are we

Why wouldn’t it be, torque equals force time length of focal arm. 75 lbs of weight on a 1 foot arm equals 75 lb/ft torque. Now my actual being accurate with the exact force is in question but the theory is not. If I used a 2 ft lug wrench with the same 75 lbs of weight, it would 150 lbs/ft.

[Fishysam]

Op, probably want to find an impact gun when this happens to remove the stuck lugs. I have had the correct socket and spun by hand rounded off the lug, but an impact doesnt seem do do that in personal experience.

if using anti-seize looking for 75pound feet of torque isnt the actual answer. Anti-seize is a lubricant and all the surfaces as a whole are deciding the resistance, going to 75 may then start stretching the bolt making it weaker.

[CJ1]

I'm with you, I've been changing Car/truck/trailer wheels for over 45 years, I've never taken out the torque wrench and have never lost a wheel.

I also use anti-seize on all my wheels

Yea, I have to agree. BUT you also have to factor in common sense. One thing I will say is alot of the new vehicles have crap for hubs and rotors and if you over tighten them out of sequence you will more than likely warp the rotor. I use a torque wrench for most everything anymore except for my larger trailers. They are 240ftlbs so a good beating from my strongest 1/2" impact is very close. CJ