Line Fraying

[Jgp32]

I have a problem with Flouro getting frayed after a day or two. I have mostly dobyns and shimano rods. The combos that seem to show the most fray are the rods that I have Zillion SV TW reels on… I have done everything I know to do. I have Q-tipped all rods, I have cleaned the T-wing system (level wind on my shimano reels that I have line fray on), and I have totally switched line on most rods from InvisX to Daiwa Samurai. What am I missing??? Line will be frayed the length of a cast in the spool. And intermittent bad spots about 1-3” long. 18ish” apart.

[Robby Moser]

Did you ever use braid on these rods? Sounds like you either have a "V" worn in one or more of the inserts of the guides,or a crack in one of them.

[dragon1]

It could also be epoxy on a guide causing it...I read this from a post a few months ago and it was enlightening as it took the poster so much trial and error and testing to finally figure this out.

The strange thing is the "18-ish apart in 1-3" segments. This sounds like a pretty consistent pattern from say rotational damage of some sort?

[Jgp32]

2 of the 8-10 that are giving me trouble yes. The rest have never had braid on them.

[dragon1]

Was the braid damaged already off the spool of line? Sounds like perhaps the T-Wing may be damaging the line when it gets to a hard angle in the corner of the levelwind travel.

[Real L]

Sometimes, when there is too much line in a reel, the line will rub on the frame under the spool and this will cause the fraying. Something to check.

[dragon1]

Sometimes, when there is too much line in a reel, the line will rub on the frame under the spool and this will cause the fraying. Something to check.

Good catch.

[Jgp32]

I have not had any trouble with my braid rods. I have made sure to not over fill the spools… I have been dealing with this for about 8 months. I will re-check the guides for epoxy. Never had issues before 8 months ago.

[dragon1]

Man that's weird...are you perhaps threading the line though one of the metal frames and missing the guide itself?

[JJohnSind]

More than one rod/outfit? I’m wondering what kind of spooler you have.

[dragon1]

The other factor to consider and look into, is what changed ~ 8 months ago with your gear and as noted, if you got a new line spooler at that time? When I spool line I always use my forefingers to apply tension so I can feel the line going through and this have a feedback on the texture of the line.

[krindgen]

Q-tip in the guides to find a crack.

[ttranger]

I've been in the tackle business my entire life. I've never seen or heard of anyone having that problem on multiple rods, and almost never for more than a short section of line. Personally, I can't believe that many rods from Dobyns and Shimano have bad guides, nor do I think that the reels are defective, so I would look at the line itself. There are "bad batches" of line that show up from time to time., and/or the spooler itself is damaging the line. I don't believe the rods or reels are the problem.

[dragon1]

Q-tip in the guides to find a crack.

Yep, he said he did that as well in his original post.

[Jgp32]

I have never seen anything like this either. Never had any problems before. I was thinking I had a bad batch of line, but after buying new line and it still happening, I just don't know if it was something that I was missing. I am going to double check rod eyes again. I just can't see it being that. like I said in the original post I have Q-Tipped all of them and even had a rod builder look at some of them too.

[Real L]

I don't want to repeat what I said but your desription sure looks like something that happened to me. I put a bit to much line in a couple of my reels and the bulge it forms in the middle of the spool would rub a bit on the reel frame under the spool. Same thing : lenght of cast and fraying about every 20 inches on fluoro. It did not rub when I pulled line by hand. It rubbed during a cast.

[KSViper]

Two things you might look at:
Flex the rod as you check the guides and use a piece of panty hose instead of a Qtip. Pull the spools out of the reel that this happening in and check the spools for burrs/damage, dropping a spool or using the spool to pull braided line out of a snag can really damage them.

[kickerfish1]

Two things you might look at:
Flex the rod as you check the guides and use a piece of panty hose instead of a Qtip. Pull the spools out of the reel that this happening in and check the spools for burrs/damage, dropping a spool or using the spool to pull braided line out of a snag can really damage them.

This sounds way more kinky

[ttranger]

I don't want to repeat what I said but your desription sure looks like something that happened to me. I put a bit to much line in a couple of my reels and the bulge it forms in the middle of the spool would rub a bit on the reel frame under the spool. Same thing : lenght of cast and fraying about every 20 inches on fluoro. It did not rub when I pulled line by hand. It rubbed during a cast.

This sounds like the most likely source for the problem - all those rods and reels cannot be bad.