2011 Ranger Z119/200SHO prop and setup suggestions

[eyra_kid]

Any Z119 owners care to share their setup and speeds? Even setup with 225 SHO might help. Especially looking for prop2pad measurements.

My new-to-me 2011 Z119 is rated for a 200hp. Came with no jackplate, but in the shop now getting 8" Slidemaster installed.
Came with a 23M, and I have been running a 23p VMAX SHO T2. P2P measured 3.5" with no plate.
Speed with 23 SHO prop is 61 @5100 rpms. Light load and just me in it.

Need to get rpms up, and hopefully gain some speed with jackplate. Will make initial run at 3.5" to see effect of jackplate only.
Not sure how high these SHO motors are typically ran.

On a sidenote, I did run a 24 Fury 3 once. Ran 64 @ 5100. I didnt expect to turn enough rpms, but I was impressed with speed, handling and holeshot. Might be looking to try a 22 or 23 fury in the future.

TIA

[eyra_kid]

Still looking for some Z119 setups.
8" Slidemaster Jackplate now installed. Set at 4.5" bp initially.

23 SHO VMAX T2 ran 62 @ 5200 rpm
22 SHO VMAX T2 ran 61.8 @ 5500 rpm

Raised jackplate to 4.25" and 4" with no noticeable gains. Still had acceptable water psi.

I'd like to be able to run 65ish, but maybe the 200 just won't push it there.

May be trying a couple Tempests soon.

[mactlman]

my 519 like it about 3.5 so far-- 5900 at 67 mph merc though. and only has 2 hrs so still learning it. my hull deeper then yours also i believe. mine has a 10 plate also did you ask in the prop area and set up area in top section?

[eyra_kid]

Thanks mactlman. Seems like most of the 225 boats will run upper 60s from searching on here. Even that setup info can be helpful. The SHO and Ranger is new to me coming from a Basscat/Merc also.
And Ranger only had the 200 rated Z119s for a couple years. As I understand it, the 2012+ was rated 225.
Not sure the difference in hulls between my 2011 and your 2022.

I havent asked on the prop and setup forums yet. Thought I might have a better shot finding a similar rig on the Ranger board. I've now run 6 props on this boat, from a 25p Signature 3-blade (VMAX clone), 22p T1, 22p T2, 23p T2, 24 Fury and a 23M. All ran 61-62 except the Fury ran 64 at only 5100 rpm. I need to get rpms up to about 5800, but even the 22p Yamaha SHO props turn only 5500. I've verified throttle is fully opening. I don't have poles or a bunch of excess weight. Running one 31 AGM and 3 Group 27 batteries so no funky lithium setup.
I'm no stranger to setting up a boat, but this one has me a little perplexed.

[mactlman]

Thanks mactlman. Seems like most of the 225 boats will run upper 60s from searching on here. Even that setup info can be helpful. The SHO and Ranger is new to me coming from a Basscat/Merc also.
And Ranger only had the 200 rated Z119s for a couple years. As I understand it, the 2012+ was rated 225.
Not sure the difference in hulls between my 2011 and your 2022.

I havent asked on the prop and setup forums yet. Thought I might have a better shot finding a similar rig on the Ranger board. I've now run 6 props on this boat, from a 25p Signature 3-blade (VMAX clone), 22p T1, 22p T2, 23p T2, 24 Fury and a 23M. All ran 61-62 except the Fury ran 64 at only 5100 rpm. I need to get rpms up to about 5800, but even the 22p Yamaha SHO props turn only 5500. I've verified throttle is fully opening. I don't have poles or a bunch of excess weight. Running one 31 AGM and 3 Group 27 batteries so no funky lithium setup.
I'm no stranger to setting up a boat, but this one has me a little perplexed.

Have you considered having your engine flashed? Have you had your engine checked out to make sure all six are working properly?

[eyra_kid]

I have considered taking it to Nixa, Mo for a checkover and makeover . Runs strong out of the hole. Accelerates up to 45-50 quickly, then just kind of flattens out.

[eyra_kid]

Updating this post and lesson learned. Always verify your P2P. Jackplate installer has a longtime reputation as a local guru setting up boats. Told me he set it at 3.5". It was not, actually measured a little over 4.5" bp.
Once I readjusted to 3.5" speed and rpms picked up noticeably. 58-5900 rpm at 64-65 with the 22P SHO prop.

[Blair B]

My 2012 z518 w/ a 8” manual Slidemaster and a 2016 SHO 200 will run 64 with a 23p Tempest Plus all the PVS holes are filled. PtP is about 3 3/4” if I remember right. I’m turning 5600 to 5700, I plan on trying a 22p Tempest Plus or moving the PtP up about a 1/2”.

[eyra_kid]

My 2012 z518 w/ a 8” manual Slidemaster and a 2016 SHO 200 will run 64 with a 23p Tempest Plus all the PVS holes are filled. PtP is about 3 3/4” if I remember right. I’m turning 5600 to 5700, I plan on trying a 22p Tempest Plus or moving the PtP up about a 1/2”.

Your Z518 should be shorter and lighter than my rig. My buddy has a 2012 Z518. I bet you can come up 1/4" to 1/2" easily. Should be no problem to gain the rpms you need with that 23 Tempest. You may even find you need a 24 after raising the motor.

[bassfisher444]

You need to have Hydro Tec flash that motor to a 300hp. Only $700 and well worth it.

[Jbass123]

You need to have Hydro Tec flash that motor to a 300hp. Only $700 and well worth it.

It’s your dime, but this ^ is a terrible idea. If you *ever* had an incident with a passenger onboard, even yourself if an injury occurred, you’d be toast with an engine producing 50% over rated horsepower. I know this is an old, old argument, but common sense tells us that insurance companies have more lawyers than we do and will use them to avoid payouts. Of course, you can tell yourself that there are ways to hide what you’ve done to increase horsepower, but good luck with escaping all discovery. Plus, do you really want to set yourself up for what could be a sticky litigation?

On a different note, the Z119 is a completely different hull from newer/current Z519 models, so you’re doing apples and oranges if you make any performance comparisons there. The kind of good news is, the Z119 is a slightly smaller, lighter, and more streamlined hull, so if the engine/prop setup is optimal, it should run very well. I had a 2011 Z119 with no jack plate, and it ran 66 mph with an Evinrude 200 [2 stroke]. Measured on GPS. So my guess is something is not right with that engine.

[bassfisher444]

It’s your dime, but this ^ is a terrible idea. If you *ever* had an incident with a passenger onboard, even yourself if an injury occurred, you’d be toast with an engine producing 50% over rated horsepower. I know this is an old, old argument, but common sense tells us that insurance companies have more lawyers than we do and will use them to avoid payouts. Of course, you can tell yourself that there are ways to hide what you’ve done to increase horsepower, but good luck with escaping all discovery. Plus, do you really want to set yourself up for what could be a sticky litigation?

You will find zero cases of that ever happening. Flashing an outboard is not illegal and there is no way for them to even tell that it is flashed.

[eyra_kid]

It’s your dime, but this ^ is a terrible idea. If you *ever* had an incident with a passenger onboard, even yourself if an injury occurred, you’d be toast with an engine producing 50% over rated horsepower. I know this is an old, old argument, but common sense tells us that insurance companies have more lawyers than we do and will use them to avoid payouts. Of course, you can tell yourself that there are ways to hide what you’ve done to increase horsepower, but good luck with escaping all discovery. Plus, do you really want to set yourself up for what could be a sticky litigation?

On a different note, the Z119 is a completely different hull from newer/current Z519 models, so you’re doing apples and oranges if you make any performance comparisons there. The kind of good news is, the Z119 is a slightly smaller, lighter, and more streamlined hull, so if the engine/prop setup is optimal, it should run very well. I had a 2011 Z119 with no jack plate, and it ran 66 mph with an Evinrude 200 [2 stroke]. Measured on GPS. So my guess is something is not right with that engine.

Good to know on the hulls. I was more looking for comparable year Z519. But I wasn't expecting my 200 rated boat to run with the 225s. I've got it set up now, but wanted to correct my original post in case someone else is searching. The boat dealer told me he set it up at 3.5" and I had no reason to doubt him as he has set up 100s of Rangers over the years. But, once I measured and found it was actually at 4.5" I corrected it to what it needed to be. Mine did run 62 without a jackplate and the 4stroke SHO. Adding the jackplate and raising it to 3.25-3.5 helped a bunch. Got the rpms up to where they needed to be at 5800-5900, and gained several mph.

[Jbass123]