Navionics charting questions - need help with charting?

[basscfo]

I just bought a hotmaps Platnum South chip last week at BPS, updated it before first use and I do not have any aerial photo overlay around Toledo Bend on either of my Gen 3 9's as was observed earlier in this thread by others, at least one month ago. Is anyone out there at Navionics awake and trying to fix this issue or going to put out some info on how to set up to get the info to work off the chip? I am very disappointed at this point with my new chip and the free unlimited updates. could use some help from Navionics if anyone is out
there.

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[bandit53]

Got to thinking about Sonar Charts and lake levels. My home lake has been up to 6' above normal pool earlier this year and they are now lowering it to as much as 3' below normal. That will be a 9' change in, say, 6 mos. When various peoples have been gathering and submitting sonar charts to Navionics during this period, does Navionics account for the lake level change? If not, it would seem a given contour line would not be consistent over the lake? Hope I am making sense. During one 2 year span the lake went from 13' low to 9' high. This would make an even more dramatic inconsistency if not taken into account when sonar data is incorporated into Sonar Charts. I spoke to Navionics Support but they really didn't have any answer, saying this was too detailed an inquiry for their level of support.

[Wayne P.]

Got to thinking about Sonar Charts and lake levels. My home lake has been up to 6' above normal pool earlier this year and they are now lowering it to as much as 3' below normal. That will be a 9' change in, say, 6 mos. When various peoples have been gathering and submitting sonar charts to Navionics during this period, does Navionics account for the lake level change? If not, it would seem a given contour line would not be consistent over the lake? Hope I am making sense. During one 2 year span the lake went from 13' low to 9' high. This would make an even more dramatic inconsistency if not taken into account when sonar data is incorporated into Sonar Charts. I spoke to Navionics Support but they really didn't have any answer, saying this was too detailed an inquiry for their level of support.

Over time with many uploaded sonar logs the "normal" lake level will be used for all contours.

A data point as the depth and GPS location, so as a particular location's depth changes, with enough data provided, there will be an average. Takes time to have an average---many years.
You keep providing the data at the same locations so that the average can happen sooner.

[contium]

When I start Sonar Charts Live, it asks for the current lake level (offset). It's pretty much up to the person collecting the data to do so correctly. I have had sonar logs rejected on both Sonar Charts and Insight Genesis because there was to much of a discrepancy between my logs and other peoples previous logs. It sucks because I go to great lengths to get accurate data.

[grout-scout]

My lake has been down 20'- 28' the last several years and the water line on my Nav card shows that level. If my lake ever fills (doubtful at this point) then I'm going to have a borderline worthless card.

[JDFishing]

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[skeeternuthead]

I also have lost the shading and satellite function on my HDS 9 Touch, have tried all of the above suggestion to get it to work. I know it was working last month when I updated the card HMPTS6 Platinum. I have two Touch 9's linked together and it does not work on either one. Would it be a problem with the card or with the HDS units, also done soft boot and hard boot no luck. any help will be appreciated.

[JDFishing]

Skeeternuthead - have you only updates the cards or have you updated the Lowrance units as well?

[skeeternuthead]

I have updated the Navionics card twice since I discovered the shading and satellite overlays were not working, The HDS 9's were up dated when the latest updates were available for download. Does anyone no if the problem is associated with Navionics, Lowrance or both of them

[bandit53]

Have you lost the shading on all lakes on the South card or just some lakes? Reason I ask is I no longer have shading on Toledo Bend or Sam Rayburn after updating, but have spot checked and still have shading/transparency on Choke Canyon, Guntersville, Fayette Country, Dardanelle, etc. I used to have it on TB and SR, but no longer after updating. Same results on 3 HDS units. I can take my unit and go to Bass Pro and their Platinum card works fine on TB/SR. I would imagine their card hasn't been updated. I can get preferred depth range on those 2 lakes to show up as white (and everything else blue) by turning Colored Seabed OFF.

[skeeternuthead]

Hello Bandit53 thanks for the info about it working at other lakes. Just got home and read your post and headed to the garage and your are correct I went to Choke Canyon and Falcon and the shading and satellite overlay works on those two lakes. Looks like an Navionics problem. will try to contact them tomorrow. If you hear anything let me know Thanks

[JDFishing]

Sorry Guys, was traveling pretty hard last week. This is a bit more technical for me but I sent this question off for review. Want to at least point you in the right direction.

[jmt870]

Is there a video that goes over the shading features? Are you guys getting several color options with shading? Thanks

[prostaff1]

On some lakes I have up to 7 different colors, however, every lake is different and has different setups. Toledo Bend is totally different from Guntersville which is different from KY Lake or Lake Anna...so there is no accurate answer for that question.
For some setup info, go to my thread I did in March of 2014 "Navionics and shaded depth 2". that is pretty basic but will help some. But there are hundreds of different combinations of setups and every single increment change on one setting affects many others and totally changes the picture. If it is just a map the user wants, that is easy, well not really depending on fishing vs full navigation and in between.

This is a very valuable tool for different conditions, times of year, current vs non current lakes, deep vs shallow lakes, ledge lakes etc...Locating "productive" water vs non based on patterns, movements, paths, staging Yada, etc....That is a way different level of understanding of fishing patterns and customization of the maptool to guide the search setup. To be of max value you must customize it for your lake, conditions and what "you" want it to do within your knowledge of how the fish react to all of those changing criteria. It gets complicated. Navionics has recently asked me to do a video so I am thinking over at the moment how to condense a 2 hour seminar into a 5 minute video. Hummm
Tommy
Prostaff Lowrance/Navico
Prostaff Marine Specialist/Navionics

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[beck125]

Random question here, I am trying to figure out how to get the photo overlay and the shallow water imaging to show up on my hds 10 gen2, currently have a premium card.. I know how to turn the feature on but im assuming I need a platinum chip to show this feature...

[prostaff1]

The discontinued Premium card will not do those features. You need to get the Platinum Regional card for your area. Navionics.com has the info to help you find what you need. Only the Platinum will do the full customization of the mapping. Navionics+ cards are great for their purpose but also do not have the full custom features of the Platinum.
Check out my thread I did in March of 2014.."Navionics and shaded depth 2" , in the archives here. That will give you basic starting info to get you going.
Tommy
Prostaff Lowrance/Navico
Prostaff Marine Specialist/Navionics

[beck125]

Is there a way to use my premium card and update to the platinum with that purchase ?,

[prostaff1]

You can update to the Navionics+ card for $99 by using your Premium as the key to unlock the update. You will have a Navionics+ card when completed, not a Platinum. I would check with some board sponsors here for a price on the Platinum cards. I have nothing to do with anything retail so I am no help there, but a call to Three Rivers or BBG (there are others as well), may be worth the call when time to purchase.
Tommy
Prostaff Lowrance/Navico
Prostaff Marine Specialist/Navionics