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    I think their attorneys will handle it.

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    Waivers don’t mean crap when you have 3 deaths. I doubt MLF has more than $5 to $10 mil limits max. This will go way way beyond that. Unfortunately all the deep pockets will be at risk (Boyd, other sponsors, etc). Just wait, this one will be brutal and most likely the end of MLF unfortunately.

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    The major investor in MLF is Kroenke Sports Entertainment.

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    If they go after those unassociated to the actual accident, then this will be in court forever.



    Quote Originally Posted by LanierFX View Post
    Waivers don’t mean crap when you have 3 deaths. I doubt MLF has more than $5 to $10 mil limits max. This will go way way beyond that. Unfortunately all the deep pockets will be at risk (Boyd, other sponsors, etc). Just wait, this one will be brutal and most likely the end of MLF unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanierFX View Post
    Waivers don’t mean crap when you have 3 deaths. I doubt MLF has more than $5 to $10 mil limits max. This will go way way beyond that. Unfortunately all the deep pockets will be at risk (Boyd, other sponsors, etc). Just wait, this one will be brutal and most likely the end of MLF unfortunately.
    I can’t believe they don’t have more umbrella than that, I have personally 5 mil. plus 1 mil. They would be way underinsured based on their liability exposure.
    I have had most of them, some are just better than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT180 View Post
    I can’t believe they don’t have more umbrella than that, I have personally 5 mil. plus 1 mil. They would be way underinsured based on their liability exposure.
    There is a school of thought by some that if you have too high a limits on an Umbrella that you are giving plaintiff attorneys even more incentive to go after you. A reasonable limit is enough to protect most of your assets but you generally don’t need to go above that.

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    If the motor was a 4 stroke, do we go back to 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT180 View Post
    I can’t believe they don’t have more umbrella than that, I have personally 5 mil. plus 1 mil. They would be way underinsured based on their liability exposure.
    You need to check the fine print. Some umbrellas have hp limits for boats that are pretty low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TritonJT View Post
    You need to check the fine print. Some umbrellas have hp limits for boats that are pretty low.
    That is not my boat insurance, this is on top of that, personal liability.
    I have had most of them, some are just better than others.

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    Unfortunately, tournaments may be nearing the end of their useful lives/existence. I have fished hundreds of speckled trout and bass tournaments, as a disclaimer to my comments. I, personally, hope they dissolve. These days there is just too much pressure on our fish, in Texas anyway. The lakes and bays are crowded M-Sunday now. You can fish the most remote places of lakes/bays, and still listen to boat motors roaring and music, it's a non-stop parade of traffic. The older I get, I can't believe we pull bedding fish for a weigh in miles away, much less the fish protecting the fry balls. Those fry are eaten probably within minutes after their protector is placed in a live well. Then you have all the development around the lake. I can't see why a single lake landowner would want tournaments on the lake they live on, and pay exorbitant taxes on. More tournaments mean more litter, more noise, more congestion and less fish to catch. Now we are started to see more accidents, some life ending events. Along w/my zx250, I have a l&b boca that runs mid 80's. It's not even one of the faster boats anymore, as many are running escb's with 450/500's that run in the 90's/100's. Very little 'walking away' opportunity with a mistake/mis-judgement.

    in a few short years, we will sell our house and hunting properties and consolidate on a lake somewhere. I can only hope B.A.S.S. and all the others don't put that lake on the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeterboud View Post
    Unfortunately, tournaments may be nearing the end of their useful lives/existence. I have fished hundreds of speckled trout and bass tournaments, as a disclaimer to my comments. I, personally, hope they dissolve. These days there is just too much pressure on our fish, in Texas anyway. The lakes and bays are crowded M-Sunday now. You can fish the most remote places of lakes/bays, and still listen to boat motors roaring and music, it's a non-stop parade of traffic. The older I get, I can't believe we pull bedding fish for a weigh in miles away, much less the fish protecting the fry balls. Those fry are eaten probably within minutes after their protector is placed in a live well. Then you have all the development around the lake. I can't see why a single lake landowner would want tournaments on the lake they live on, and pay exorbitant taxes on. More tournaments mean more litter, more noise, more congestion and less fish to catch. Now we are started to see more accidents, some life ending events. Along w/my zx250, I have a l&b boca that runs mid 80's. It's not even one of the faster boats anymore, as many are running escb's with 450/500's that run in the 90's/100's. Very little 'walking away' opportunity with a mistake/mis-judgement.

    in a few short years, we will sell our house and hunting properties and consolidate on a lake somewhere. I can only hope B.A.S.S. and all the others don't put that lake on the schedule.
    Nothing in this statement will change if tournaments go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeterboud View Post
    Unfortunately, tournaments may be nearing the end of their useful lives/existence. I have fished hundreds of speckled trout and bass tournaments, as a disclaimer to my comments. I, personally, hope they dissolve. These days there is just too much pressure on our fish, in Texas anyway. The lakes and bays are crowded M-Sunday now. You can fish the most remote places of lakes/bays, and still listen to boat motors roaring and music, it's a non-stop parade of traffic. The older I get, I can't believe we pull bedding fish for a weigh in miles away, much less the fish protecting the fry balls. Those fry are eaten probably within minutes after their protector is placed in a live well. Then you have all the development around the lake. I can't see why a single lake landowner would want tournaments on the lake they live on, and pay exorbitant taxes on. More tournaments mean more litter, more noise, more congestion and less fish to catch. Now we are started to see more accidents, some life ending events. Along w/my zx250, I have a l&b boca that runs mid 80's. It's not even one of the faster boats anymore, as many are running escb's with 450/500's that run in the 90's/100's. Very little 'walking away' opportunity with a mistake/mis-judgement.

    in a few short years, we will sell our house and hunting properties and consolidate on a lake somewhere. I can only hope B.A.S.S. and all the others don't put that lake on the schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeterboud View Post
    Unfortunately, tournaments may be nearing the end of their useful lives/existence. I have fished hundreds of speckled trout and bass tournaments, as a disclaimer to my comments. I, personally, hope they dissolve. These days there is just too much pressure on our fish, in Texas anyway. The lakes and bays are crowded M-Sunday now. You can fish the most remote places of lakes/bays, and still listen to boat motors roaring and music, it's a non-stop parade of traffic. The older I get, I can't believe we pull bedding fish for a weigh in miles away, much less the fish protecting the fry balls. Those fry are eaten probably within minutes after their protector is placed in a live well. Then you have all the development around the lake. I can't see why a single lake landowner would want tournaments on the lake they live on, and pay exorbitant taxes on. More tournaments mean more litter, more noise, more congestion and less fish to catch. Now we are started to see more accidents, some life ending events. Along w/my zx250, I have a l&b boca that runs mid 80's. It's not even one of the faster boats anymore, as many are running escb's with 450/500's that run in the 90's/100's. Very little 'walking away' opportunity with a mistake/mis-judgement.
    in a few short years, we will sell our house and hunting properties and consolidate on a lake somewhere. I can only hope B.A.S.S. and all the others don't put that lake on the schedule.
    Sounds like California would be a great place for you!!

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    Tournaments aren’t going anywhere. Humans, especially us spoiled Americans, have very short attention spans and selective memory. Some outrage, money changes hands and then all but the involved families and friends move right on to the next topic. The one at fault will turn victim too with “he has to carry this with him the rest of his life” blah, blah, blah

    Even within the bass community, most couldn’t name the coangler killed by his boaters actions in Florida a few years ago.

    Guys drive balls out. If you drive fast enough that you can’t stop in time, it’s on you. No different then the road. You pop over a little blind hill and rear end a car turning into their drive…..who’s fault is it.

    Here they are

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    Most events start with way less congestion than this clip shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFishSteve View Post
    Tournaments aren’t going anywhere. Humans, especially us spoiled Americans, have very short attention spans and selective memory. Some outrage, money changes hands and then all but the involved families and friends move right on to the next topic. The one at fault will turn victim too with “he has to carry this with him the rest of his life” blah, blah, blah

    Even within the bass community, most couldn’t name the coangler killed by his boaters actions in Florida a few years ago.

    Guys drive balls out. If you drive fast enough that you can’t stop in time, it’s on you. No different then the road. You pop over a little blind hill and rear end a car turning into their drive…..who’s fault is it.

    Here they are

    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1KG...ibextid=wwXIfr

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    Here is a video shot from another anglers boat.....clearly see the striper boat. No fog or any visible obstacles. My opinion, and mine only, he is looking at negligent homicide x 3. Plus there are 2 survivors in the striper boat that will be able to tell their side of the story. To me, doesn't look like the striper boat was in a dangerous spot, or obscure in a blind spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geodebasser View Post
    The lawyers statement about “effectuating change” is nothing but PR BS designed to ease public perceptions about greedy lawyers.
    "The man of system is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamored with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it…He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chessboard.” Adam Smith, The Theory of Moral Sentiments

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    Did anyone else catch the name of attorney for the MLF angler involved in the accident?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanF View Post
    Did anyone else catch the name of attorney for the MLF angler involved in the accident?
    I believe it is none other than The Boss of Lake Eufaula Alabama.

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