Matt Herren DQ’ed

[188Musky]

That’s the entire purpose of the rule…to make the tournament a contest of fishing skill and knowledge of each competitor against each of the other competitors. The rule, and particularly its enforcement, is not perfect. But, that's no reason to abandon the over-all goal of creating as level,of a playing field as possible.

The problem is that they’re never equals when they get there.

The qualifying process rewards inequality, and if fact, creates inequality, and fishing contests are inherently contests of inequality to begin with.

[WStorey]

Y'all related?

That's his son

[AKRISONER]

The biggest cry baby in the elites gets caught cheating? Can’t make this stuff up

[HGD]

Rules are rules! They all know them and understand them. U can have zero tolerance or u can dance around them which turns into this. The opens guy should have been Dq'd no doubt and that mess will continue to grow. The problem comes with some of these guys want to talk about fishing constantly with people not in the tournament! That is just asking for trouble and something to slip. Part of the job! Don't like it fish the lower levels!

[juice780]

How can anyone control what someone else might say to them?

[RangerBob52O]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

I respect y’all coming out and being honest about what happened. We normally don’t get that. It sounds like Matt handled it exactly the right way when they asked him the question. Thanks for letting us know.

[Josh Herren]

That would be my dad.

[Kennyc843]

That would be my dad.

He didn’t put you on punishment? And take away all your electronics ��. Jk
All jokes aside it’s a bad situation but he will be fine.

[BrianKF]

That sucks a person has to walk on their tippy toes when talking to family about how their day is going. I get the purpose of the rule but a little common sense needs to be inacted when enforcing some rules. If he made no use of the info then I see no wrong doing.

[Boat4Life]

The biggest cry baby in the elites gets caught cheating? Can’t make this stuff up

Seriously, he didn't cheat. Must be cabin fever...can't make this stuff up.

[Loll1121]

It has to be almost impossible to have people not tell you unsolicited info. In Milliken video last night, while fishing a canal, a guy in his back yard goes “there’s a hole…”. And Ben stopped him immediately and said I can’t get any info.

[west_tn]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

If that is true and that is what BASS DQ'd him for that is beyond ridiculous.

[krindgen]

Hmm, was wondering if BASS may have been lashing out at Matt cuzz he's been outspoken about tourney fishing. I also agree seems over the top. There needs to be some compromise from a complete DQ.

[west_tn]

How do they DQ him, but just fine the Opens guy with a shady past?

[Bass in the grass]

That would be my dad.

Do you guide fish or just tournament fish?


I don’t believe for a minute that was the entire story, but I wasn’t there, so…

[Rebel1]

Tournament bass fishing is littered with cheating. At every level.

[rb]

If that is true and that is what BASS DQ'd him for that is beyond ridiculous.

Why??????
A private phone call between two people. Not something over heard in public or read on internet. A private phone conversation.
The location of where a recent tournament was won on the body of water that one of the participants was going to fish during an official practice day.
And by two people who know the rules
Know tell me why this should have not been a DQ

[Josh Herren]

Do you guide fish or just tournament fish?


I don’t believe for a minute that was the entire story, but I wasn’t there, so…

I just fish tournaments and have probably spent two days on the St. John’s combined.

[Josh Herren]

Why??????
A private phone call between two people. Not something over heard in public or read on internet. A private phone conversation.
The location of where a recent tournament was won on the body of water that one of the participants was going to fish during an official practice day.
And by two people who know the rules
Know tell me why this should have not been a DQ

I said it was a stupid mistake on my part not thinking. He did nothing with the comment and never even went that direction in practice or competition. The rule is requesting information to gain a competitive advantage. He didn’t request it an gained nothing by it. He spent his tournament an hour the opposite direction.

[Cull_none]

So the one time his son says accidentally talks about how a recent derby was won he just so happens to be picked for a random? Seems legit