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    Hummingbird mapping is the best I've seen on my lakes

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    Nearly all competitors are great now, both mapping and imaging. I let customer service play an important role. IMO, hummingbird is the better of the bigs.

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    Lowrance!

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    Depends on what tech is the most important for the way you fish. Shoot me and email if you have any questions

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    Humminbird Helix 10 si g2n is only $1650

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    Humminbird Helix 10 si g2n is only $1650
    Which charts does it come with?

    Thought you where a Garmin guy a few months ago??
    Last edited by Hickory Legend; 04-26-2017 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory Legend View Post
    Which charts does it come with?

    Thought you where a Garmin guy a few months ago??
    Look it up. I've been running humminbird for about 5 years and garmin for 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jig34 View Post
    Hbird SI, not Side and 3D - need to make the comparisons are right
    Humminbird has mega si and 360, raymarine has neither. Raymarine has 3D, humminbird does not. Lowrance has 3D also. Garmin has panoptix, no one else does. Garmin has true chirp 2d out of the box, humminbird and lowrance can with additional equipment. Raymarine does not. Garmin and humminbird also chirp down and side scans, raymarine and lowrance does not. Clear as mud?
    Last edited by TroyBoy30; 04-26-2017 at 08:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    Look it up. I've been running humminbird for about 5 years and garmin for 2. i personally skip any unit that depends on navionics for mapping
    So you didn't answer the question, which maps does it come with for that price??

    Humminbird also shows the price at 1699 not 1650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    Look it up. I've been running humminbird for about 5 years and garmin for 2.



    Humminbird has mega si and 360, raymarine has neither. Raymarine has 3D, humminbird does not. Lowrance has 3D also. Garmin has panoptix, no one else does. Garmin has true chirp 2d out of the box, humminbird and lowrance can with additional equipment. Raymarine does not. Garmin and humminbird also chirp down and side scans, raymarine and lowrance does not. Clear as mud?
    So basically its 1699 and you have to buy a map??

    The 360 another grand or 1500 for it.

    Raymarine has Chirp side vision and Chirp Down Vision and High Frequency chirp sonar!!! Raymarine has True Chirp included, buy the right from Lawrence!!!! They don't have anything that looks ahead. No 360 or Panaoptix each at 1000 plus to have on the others.

    Not wanting to argue or fight but lets get the facts straight!!!!

    You only need to go to the websites and look up the info!!!

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    Hbird SI, not Side and 3D - need to make the comparisons are right

    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    Humminbird Helix 10 si g2n is only $1650

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    Don't make the mistake I made, if you go Garmin make sure to check the lake map list first, I didn't and discovered Garmin has chitty coverage in NC....

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    Lots of talk about this new raymarine unit but no real world pictures from normal users.
    hard to beat helix 9-12 for value. SI pics aren't even close from anything I've seen.
    DI is awesome as well
    auto chart live, charts as you fish... don't have to pull the sd card and play on a computer to make maps.

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    Correct, no real world user images - they just started shipping this week.

    Sonar Charts Live - also on the unit, no play on the computer


    Quote Originally Posted by Boondock View Post
    Lots of talk about this new raymarine unit but no real world pictures from normal users.
    hard to beat helix 9-12 for value. SI pics aren't even close from anything I've seen.
    DI is awesome as well
    auto chart live, charts as you fish... don't have to pull the sd card and play on a computer to make maps.

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    Boondock,
    You can make topo maps with Navionics, Do sonar logs and upload them to Navionics and they update the maps and send them back on updates. All thru your phone of a wifi connection also without removing the card and going to the computer.
    Plus it syncs your spots and trails to your tablet or phone to carry in another boat.

    Im sure HBird can do that also. They all pretty much do that stuff now I believe.
    The Hbird has some great images for sure, hopefully we will be getting some Axiom screen shots once they start getting shipped

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    Bottom line is that we all make good product and we all do something a little different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jig34 View Post
    Bottom line is that we all make good product and we all do something a little different.
    Yea but the Difference, and a big one, ya don't come out with a new unit every other year!!!!
    When your on a budget and you can buy a new boat or new units every other year, the fact that you have a product that keeps current is HUGH!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory Legend View Post
    Yea but the Difference, and a big one, ya don't come out with a new unit every other year!!!!
    When your on a budget and you can buy a new boat or new units every other year, the fact that you have a product that keeps current is HUGH!!!!!!
    I know this is dated, but I'm considering the Raymarine to replace my Simrad. All of the reviews talk up the fact that Raymarine won't spin out new units every year to make stale the latest/greatest unit you just bought ($1,500-$2,500 tier)... This has been a huge pet peeve with other brands. But, geez, looks like Raymarine did the exact thing they promised not to, in rolling out the Axiom Pro to cannibalize the Axiom. I'm not trolling, just really, really frustrated. I would gladly hand over $3k for a 9-12" unit that I could put on my boat today and be ABSOLUTELY ASSURED that it would remain a brand's flagship unit for the next 36months. That doesn't seem too much to ask, as these units are nothing more than small PCs that can be kept cutting edge via S/W and F/W updates. OR, go the route of cell phones and evolve these units into 1yr disposables that we toss and replace for $400 a pop. They aren't even remotely as smart as the average phone or laptop that costs a third of the price. The actual sonar component isn't new tech, across ANY brand. Would love to see Apple or an Android upstart get into this game and actually disrupt with a better platform and approach. Admittedly, we collectively are just not a huge market; but, boat electronics have got to be the most behind-the-times segment of consumer electronics.

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    Wrong, Axiom Pro has features that Axiom doesn’t have. Both are current and compatible with each other. Also compatible with older eS and gS units. That means units 5+ years old can be upgraded to Lighthouse 3 software for FREE.

    Regarding product / price, R&D for marine electronics isn’t cheap and there are probably 10,000+ phones for every fish finder. Economies of scale play a big part of pricing. Asking Apple to enter the marine electronics market with throw away $400 units would surely be the death of marine electronics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greywalls View Post
    I know this is dated, but I'm considering the Raymarine to replace my Simrad. All of the reviews talk up the fact that Raymarine won't spin out new units every year to make stale the latest/greatest unit you just bought ($1,500-$2,500 tier)... This has been a huge pet peeve with other brands. But, geez, looks like Raymarine did the exact thing they promised not to, in rolling out the Axiom Pro to cannibalize the Axiom. I'm not trolling, just really, really frustrated. I would gladly hand over $3k for a 9-12" unit that I could put on my boat today and be ABSOLUTELY ASSURED that it would remain a brand's flagship unit for the next 36months. That doesn't seem too much to ask, as these units are nothing more than small PCs that can be kept cutting edge via S/W and F/W updates. OR, go the route of cell phones and evolve these units into 1yr disposables that we toss and replace for $400 a pop. They aren't even remotely as smart as the average phone or laptop that costs a third of the price. The actual sonar component isn't new tech, across ANY brand. Would love to see Apple or an Android upstart get into this game and actually disrupt with a better platform and approach. Admittedly, we collectively are just not a huge market; but, boat electronics have got to be the most behind-the-times segment of consumer electronics.

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    So are you getting unit for free hickory or just heavily discounted?
    Helix 9 mega is 1299...
    build you own maps with a zero line card ($100) retail.

    Best SI by a ton from any images I've seen.

    Ray marine may be awesome, but no real world shots out yet. Lot to spend on speculation.

    just because new units come out doesn't mean you have to buy.
    HB seems to support and update their products for around 5 years

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