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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratos81 View Post
    Its because you’re going back to your old eating habits, plain and simple. You’re fat because of you. The drug slows your digestion system and makes you feel full quicker. If you stop the drugs and maintain the same caloric intake, you wont get magically fat.
    If it was that easy very few would be fat.

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    Its absolutely true, 100%, I have had consultations with 2 doctors, an endocrinologist and the medical staff at Healthogenics, all of them...ALL...said GLP1s are a lifelong commitment. Also said 100% of patients who achieved goal weight and normal A1C then came off the shot gained weight at a very fast rate. So yes, lifelong commitment for those on them.
    So you have basically become a cash cow for Eli Lilly, and most likely, they are telling you how these drugs are altering your pancreatic and thyroid output, which very likely are contributing to your weight gain once your come off their biologics. When I had my pancreatic cancer resection, I could not stop loosing weight because food was going through my digestive track without the proper enzymes to allow my intestinal track to absorb nutrients. I went from @235# down to 176# loosing muscle mass and strength like crazy even though I was eating a 60/40 diet, 60 pro, 20 carb, 20 good fats, until my oncologist figured out the proper amount of digestive enzymes to introduce back into my system, which were removed when 2/3 of my pancreas, my spleen, and whatever else was removed due to cancer resection.
    16 months later, I am keeping my weight between 197 and 205# with proper diet, daily activities, and digestive enzymes. Your endocrine system regulates your many body functions and greatly influences your glands, hormones and receptors, so if you truly want to control your weight, you need to find an endocrinologist who is NOT a drug pusher for some pharma giving him major perks, or a very good exercise physiologist/dietician willing to sit with you and work out a personal program which you will be able to use for a life time.
    There is NO SHORT CUTS in anything worth while in your life, and getting into a healthy lifestyle change is a long worthwhile journey worth taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratos81 View Post
    thats nit true at all. The medicine creates the life style change essentially.

    Less calories in has always been the secret. People dont get fat from low calorie diets with exercise lol.
    no, your own will creates lifestyle change. The medication is intended to improve your A1C while accelerating weight loss affects producing hormones that make you feel full faster.. it doesn’t magically create a lifestyle change. . you go off the meds, you gain the weight if you don’t have the will power to change eating habits.

    my sister in law was on wegovy. Lost weight and her doctor stopped the prescriptions. Gained 10lbs back in a month. Doctor put her back on. These medications are lifelong prescriptions, directly from doctors mouth who has been trying to get my mom on the medication.

    I say this fully acknowledging my own faults, I’m out of shape and don’t make the best eating choices. But I’m not at risk of needing these shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECobb91 View Post
    no, your own will creates lifestyle change. The medication is intended to improve your A1C while accelerating weight loss affects producing hormones that make you feel full faster.. it doesn’t magically create a lifestyle change. . you go off the meds, you gain the weight if you don’t have the will power to change eating habits.

    my sister in law was on wegovy. Lost weight and her doctor stopped the prescriptions. Gained 10lbs back in a month. Doctor put her back on. These medications are lifelong prescriptions, directly from doctors mouth who has been trying to get my mom on the medication.

    I say this fully acknowledging my own faults, I’m out of shape and don’t make the best eating choices. But I’m not at risk of needing these shots.
    your incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratos81 View Post
    your incorrect
    So you’re saying if I take this medication, my eating habits change and I will never need it again?

    never knew it has a psychological effect to generate will power and lifestyle changes.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...alth-problems/

    in this study of 200 people, they lost an average of 17% with it, and regained about 12% back once they got off the shot. With an average net loss of 5%.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-after-ozempic

    summary of this study “research shows regaining weight is common after cessation. Experts recommend staying on the medication long term.”

    Instead of just spouting “you’re incorrect”. Tell us why you think everyone will retain their weight loss after stopping. Because every doctor disagrees with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECobb91 View Post
    Ozempic and Majourno are lifelong prescriptions. Once you stop the shots, your weight and cholesterol go back up even with a lifestyle change.

    but that shot is better than obesity, heart problems, and diabetes.
    see…. Your wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratos81 View Post
    see…. You’re wrong!
    don you actually have any proof other than opinion? Cause I haven’t seen any other than opinion.

    Two diff debates are getting intertwined.

    i agree with your calorie intake vs outtake.

    But I don’t agree that it induces a lifestyle change. There is no lifestyle change it creates; that needs to be a conscience decision the user makes. It doesn’t magically make people unconsciously choose healthier eating habits or give them the desire to exercise. There’s people who eat like crap, and don’t exercise, while on it and still lose weight.

    My father in law is in a wheelchair, lives in a nursing home full time at 62yo, and is on ozempic for diabetes. He’s losing weight without any change in habits because there is no habits he controls. The facility dictates what he eats, and his diet plan hasn’t changed in 7 years. If he goes off ozempic, he will gain weight. It’s that simple.
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    I certainly had to adjust my portion size and avoid or limit fatty anything like a ribeye.
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    Ozympic and the one that starts with a W are pretty dangerous. There is an in ordinately high risk of cancers in those that take them. Do your research, they can get ugly.

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    Ozempic for the last 3 months. Lost 27 lbs and am down to my ideal weight now. Cholesterol came down 40 percentage points. It completely removed my desire to overeat. Never got hungry. I could eat a steak, it’s just that I only wanted a small part of it. The only time I got nauseous was when I overate. I’ve changed my eating habits completely. No snacking, no processed food, no alcohol during the week, and small portions of everything. I suppose we shall see if they are a “lifelong commitment”. I highly doubt it but I’ll be a good science experiment. Don’t plan on taking it again, so my new habits will need to maintain what I’ve attained. I actually kind of like feeling a bit hungry between meals.
    As for cancer scares, there was a slightly increased risk of very rare thyroid cancer in animals. Never shown in humans but the warning exists. If there is a history of these rare cancers in your family, best not to take them. That’s hardly convincing evidence
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    t's estimated that the average American of today consumes more sugar in a two week period than an American from the early 1800's consumed in an entire year.”

    Everyone on this thread talking about their A1C levels. Stop eating crap food, it really will “magically” go down. Food is medicine, its also poison if you allow it.

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    Any of you guys taking this shot? I have been on it for about 7 months, lost 39 pounds and brought my A1 down from 7.5 to 6.8, also taking two metformin a day. Question is does meats make you sick, i can't eat my favorite ribeye steak, pork tenderloin and even cheeseburgers without making me feel like i am blotted like a cow.
    Im on it Rodney… same reason.. down 68 lbs now in 6 months. Sugar is great now.. been walking and using our treadmill everyday. Feel a lot better. The mounjaro definitely takes away your love of food. I still enjoy most foods but just can’t eat a lot of
    anything. Pretty much anything you eat feels like it stays with you forever. Kind of wondering what coming off it, if you do, feels like?

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    On it for 8 months now, 10 shot. My biggest side effect has been nausea, heartburn and indigestion after eating. A1C is 4.9

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    The biggest thing that has bothered me most is GETTING BACKED UP pretty bad, Dr tells me it is caused by not eating enough, gets your system out of Wack. It's pretty painful guys, stomach feels bloated and laxatives don't help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaymasRodney View Post
    The biggest thing that has bothered me most is GETTING BACKED UP pretty bad, Dr tells me it is caused by not eating enough, gets your system out of Wack. It's pretty painful guys, stomach feels bloated and laxatives don't help a lot.
    Try eating a strict carnivore diet (Beef, bacon, eggs and butter) for a few days. Starches and fiber will actually plug you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booster View Post
    Try eating a strict carnivore diet (Beef, bacon, eggs and butter) for a few days. Starches and fiber will actually plug you up.

    Fiber does not plug you up. Fiber regulates movements, it keeps things moving at a steady pace. Rodney probably needs fiber. I know If I don't take a fiber supplement things really slow down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaymasRodney View Post
    Any of you guys taking this shot? I have been on it for about 7 months, lost 39 pounds and brought my A1 down from 7.5 to 6.8, also taking two metformin a day. Question is does meats make you sick, i can't eat my favorite ribeye steak, pork tenderloin and even cheeseburgers without making me feel like i am blotted like a cow.
    An a1c of 6.8 is still way to high. You want to get it down to 5 .

    Glp drugs work by slowing the digestion of food. Glp drugs have been around a long time but were typically given at much lower doses. The new high dose version slows digestion more. When you slow digestion down enough food is literally rotting in your stomach. That can not be good. You have just disrupted your whole digestive system. That is horrible for overall health.

    Protien naturally has glp and when taking a glp and eating a steak you are getting more of the glp.

    Glps are a way to eat a crap diet and lose some weight but they are not making you healthy you have just stepped back from the edge. An a1c above 6 is bad. An a1c of 5.7 is prediabetic. The goal should be an a1c of 5.

    You are not going to be healthy eating processed foods. If it has seed/veg oil do not eat. Do not eat sugar including juices, grains, rice potatoes. Starches are essentially sugars so starch additives should be viewed as sugar. All of your dressings are going to have seed oils.

    I would recommend a keto diet. A keto diet is less than 50 grams of carbs a day. It is safe to have zero carbs. A subset of a keto diet is a carnivore diet, only meat.

    Dr Bikman is an expert on insulin. Dr Bikman says to prioritize protiens and also in nature that protien is paired with fat.

    Fat and protien have a synergy. Seed oil is also a fat but i am not talking oil i am talking animal fat. Eat chicken with the skin, whole milk dairy, egg yolks etc i make my protien shake with half and half.

    There is a lot of info on youtube.look at
    Dr ken berry
    Dr baker
    Dr ekberg
    Dr berg

    Then there are youtubers that have changed thier lives with keto
    Kelly hogan
    Laura spath
    Ferrigno freedom
    Homestead how

    Drs baker and berry eat only meat. They are in thier 50s and jacked. 20 years ago kelly hogan was 250 lbs and a blimp.

    One last thing. I just learned about a fat in grass fed dairy. It is a c15 fat. It helps with insulin resistance. You should take 2 tablespoons of grass fed butter. It should also be in grass fed whole milk and cream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justfishing View Post
    An a1c of 6.8 is still way to high. You want to get it down to 5 .

    Glp drugs work by slowing the digestion of food. Glp drugs have been around a long time but were typically given at much lower doses. The new high dose version slows digestion more. When you slow digestion down enough food is literally rotting in your stomach. That can not be good. You have just disrupted your whole digestive system. That is horrible for overall health.

    Protien naturally has glp and when taking a glp and eating a steak you are getting more of the glp.
    I really believe my main problem is exercise. don't get nearly enough, just don't feel like doing much anymore, tire out really quick.

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    I took it for 6 months. Lost 40 lbs. Never had any kind of side effects. Would still be taking it but couldn't afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat188 View Post
    I took it for 6 months. Lost 40 lbs. Never had any kind of side effects. Would still be taking it but couldn't afford it.
    Check out the copays now. With the donut hole gone now my copay after deductible is $40 per. month

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