I still have some vacation days….

[Mark Perry]

This influx is going to become untenable sooner rather than later. How many more can a city support?

No one seemed to care when it was Texas and the other border states dealing with it. Wasn't a problem then. Soon as the influx hit some sanctuary cities it suddenly became a crisis.

[bfrank]

No one seemed to care when it was Texas and the other border states dealing with it. Wasn't a problem then. Soon as the influx hit some sanctuary cities it suddenly became a crisis.

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

[Mark Perry]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

Respectfully I've spent most of my adult life living in a state directly affected by the border. I see tme effects daily in many different ways. Often at the street level. I respect your attempts at trying to "educate" me on it but a lot of us get to live it and witness it firsthand so we see it differently. We are not Googling up something on the internet or getting it filtered through a Fox or CNN lens so take that partisan junk elsewhere. If you have such simple solutions I suggest you contact the powers that be and get involved and fet it fixed.

Have you been down around the border or spent any significant time in Texas or a border state lately? Not a weejebdvtrip orca work trip. Im talking an extended stay. Did you do the sane back in 2008 so you can actually qualify your statement that it's not significantly different or are you taking your news reports at face value?

It's not the same at all. Even counties along the border that are historically Democrat are overwhelmed abd asking for help because its so out of hand. Stop trying to frame it all under a political light. No matter who is in charge its a huge problem and only getting worse.

[Cliffprocraft190]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

THIS^. Neither side really wants to solve the problem because all their rich constituents benefit from the cheap labor. If you really want to stop illegal immigration, you have to stop the Americans who are hiring them and renting or selling housing to them. Prosecute and severely fine those that hire illegals and confiscate any of their property associated with the hiring/use of illegal labor and then you will eliminate their reason for coming here. If we had went after those who intentionally hire illegals starting decades ago, we wouldn't be where we are today.

[4Kboater]

THIS^. Neither side really wants to solve the problem because all their rich constituents benefit from the cheap labor. If you really want to stop illegal immigration, you have to stop the Americans who are hiring them and renting or selling housing to them. Prosecute and severely fine those that hire illegals and confiscate any of their property associated with the hiring/use of illegal labor and then you will eliminate their reason for coming here. If we had went after those who intentionally hire illegals starting decades ago, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Many of the illegals here startup their own non-registered businesses with only a pickup truck doing any type of trade or a start a food truck service. It's not locals hiring cheap labor anymore.

[jbassman87]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

Nobody gives a crap if the Gov shuts down. However, there has been a lot of talk from both sides the about illegal immigration crises. If you choose to believe it is not worse than it has ever been, you would be mistaken.

[yatesville88fan]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

if you really believe that the numbers are no different at the southern border than a few years ago. Day um man open your eyes.

[yatesville88fan]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

Unless you work for the federal government. Just how will a shut down hurt you?

[DaveBrabec]

Unless you work for the federal government. Just how will a shut down hurt you?

Social Security payments

[Quillback]

uummm… the impending government shutdown is the primary focus of anyone who isn’t a Fox News viewer. One party and its subsequent media coverage is trying to distract you from an inability to govern by saying omg look at the border. This has been going on 40 years. The numbers aren’t significantly different than they were pre 2008, the difference is unlike the 90’s and early 2000’s many immediately go ask for amnesty so we have a better count.(which is still barely higher than the previous high numbers under bush). You don’t fix the border issue(if it is one which is questionable given employment numbers) at the border, you fix it by hurting the pockets or jail time of those willingly employing. Preferably while fixing the absolute disaster of an immigration problem in the United States. Building walls is a political stunt.(and if you really pay attention tunnels were already in use before the walls.

Well they have just granted some sort of legal status to the 60,000 or so migrants camped out in NYC so that they can get work permits. Kinda hard to go after employers that are hiring illegals when the govt. grants those illegals work permits. And technically speaking they aren't illegal since they are requesting "asylum". The border counts are for those that are either apprehended or step over the border and wait for the border patrol to pick them up and then claim asylum.

How many have come across the old fashioned way, evading the BP and moving on into the US, who knows what that number is?

[hatcreek]

- Many of the illegals are fleeing conditions and situations inherent to socialist regimes

- Those who support an open southern border also support this nation's transformation into a socialist regime



Here's an irony donut

[BigFishSteve]

[basscat tyler]

Remember when they deployed 125 national guards to Martha’s Vineyard because 50 illegal aliens were sent there

[basscat21]

Remember when they deployed 125 national guards to Martha’s Vineyard because 50 illegal aliens were sent there

Given its my back yard.... yep..... They have a lot of illegals doing the trades and landscaping.... so it was not that big an issue.....

we have 300 on Otis (Cape Cod base), but so far they have not caused any problems.

[KennyVexus]

Camped on this spot

[Macsimus]

Right. Of course it has nothing to do with growing another govt-dependent voting constituency.

[basscat21]

Right. Of course it has nothing to do with growing another govt-dependent voting constituency.

Yep........

[yatesville88fan]

Right. Of course it has nothing to do with growing another govt-dependent voting constituency.

Nailed it Sir.

[Mark Perry]

I don't believe the numbers being reported at all. Spend any time around the border and yiu will not believe them either.

[basscat21]

The bottom line is once they are in......they are not going back. There is far to many areas of the economy they can fulfill labor.