Originally Posted by Larry3215
I asked Garmin the following:
Their response:Are the frequencies unchanged in the new ClearVü transducer? (From the GT52HW)
Is there any performance difference expected between the two transducers?
At this point I think I'll wait a few weeks and see if anyone gets any time with a ClearVü transducer before making a decision between the two.
My engineer contact told me the same thing. Everything is the same. I should be getting a ClearVu transducer any time now and will report back to y'all.
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That may well be true,but given the litigious state of affairs,I was glad that I got a tried and proven transducer for now.
Interesting. Thats not what Todd said earlier in this thread.
What happened to DownVü? Does ClearVü/CV replace it?
ClearVü is the new name for the fishfinder presentation that was previously called DownVü, and CV refers to the new transducer design offered by Garmin. ClearVü technology replaces DownVü and though the technologies are similar, when paired with a CV transducer, ClearVü will provide a wider image than DownVü.
I have an existing product with DownVü. Do I have ClearVü now too?
The functionality provided by your Garmin transducer will not change. ClearVü will replace the DownVü feature on existing products after a software update is installed.
Does ClearVü offer the same functionality that DownVü offered? Is it better?
For combo units that include a transducer in the box, ClearVü transducers offer a wider view of what’s under the boat. This wider view will provide more detail of fish and structure beneath the water, but is more limited in depth performance.
I’m a current customer, why did my DownVü change to ClearVü?
With so many scanning sonar technologies available in the market today, this change is being made in an effort to further differentiate Garmin technology from our competitors.
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Garmin 7610xsv/GT51M-TM/Panoptix PS21/LiveScope
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I saw that earlier Larry. I'm just telling you what I've been told. I still gotta believe it has to do with litigation.
SE Kansas grass grower
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Im pretty sure your right about that. I suspect garmin is trying to make lemonade out of some lemons the court gave them. I also doubt there is a significant difference in performance either way. This is really a non-issue Im sure.
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Originally all they do was turn the downvu element slightly. Images that you see on your units will be unchanged
I have a 1020 xs on my boat but it is not the chirp side view. I used to have a separate transducer for chirp traditional sonar but it got knocked off while running. does anyone know if I can get the new chirp side view all in one transducer for my unit. My 1020 is 8 pin and I belive that is a 12. the 1020"s on garmin website say that they come with the new clear view all in one so I'm guessing the newer 1020"s have a 12 pin but IDK any information is greatly appreciated.
Pretty sure the 1020/1020xs all only have the 8 pin xd port as well as the 840/1040 group. They will display SideVu if/when connected via network connection to another unit or black box that has the 12 pin transducer connected.
The new 1022 and 1222 announced at Ft Lauderdale are expected to have a 12 pin xd connector when they are available.
http://www.bbcboards.net/showthread.php?t=758626
Last edited by LWINCHESTER2; 11-05-2016 at 03:07 PM.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
There is an 8 to 12 pin adapter for the new units to use the older transducers.
SE Kansas grass grower
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Whelp, apparently I didn't have a choice which transducer I got, so I'll be getting the Clearvu. I'll post a photo of it when I get it in a few weeks. It'll be ice fishing season by then, so no performance tests ;)
Yes, the adapter is 12 pin to plug into a unit with a 12 pin port and yes you can then use the older 8 pin transducers. The point I was trying to make was a unit with only an 8 pin port will only be able to use the older transducers. There's not an 8 pin port to 12 pin transducer cable available so none of the new 12 pin xd's will work on a unit, old or new, that only has the 8 pin port. They're still capable of SideVu but only through the network cable to another unit or box making the 12 pin connection.
That's ok if you want to save some bucks and what you want is served by an 8 pin xd but if you mistakenly think that you can run the other xd's you'll be disappointed. Nothing new. You always have to know what you are getting and check out the specs before buying.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
My 93sv has a gt40, would it be worth the cost to upgrade to a chirp transducer?
Only if your 93sv is the chirp version.
Smokercraft Phantom 202 Yamaha F115/Merc 9.9
Garmin 7610xsv/GT51M-TM/Panoptix PS21/LiveScope
Why am I hanging out here when I could be fishing.....
Any performance difference between the downvu or clearvu that people has seen? Any updates to angle difference's and which would be better. The old models are being put on sale looks like. Can save me a $100 buying one with the old transducer, but if it causes me problems in the future, i would rather get the newest as I plan to keep these a while.
Get the old one if it come with the chirp unit. I have the old GT50/51/52. A software upgrade changed the language to ClearVu. I had DownVu. Now I have ClearVu. Maybe there's a difference, maybe not. Looks like all that changed on my 7610 was the words. Unless somebody buys both the old and new and has two units to do a side by side comparison I don't know how we could know if there's a difference. Unless like you said, the specs were different. Todd posted that the ClearVu was wider than the previous DownVu. But we don't know if that was hardware or software change. Either way, not a big deal for me. I just want tell what's fish and what's not fish. Works for me.
My wife asks if I'm going to fish every day. I can't fish every day. Some days I might be sick.
I'm pretty sure mine say "echoMAP 93sv CHIRP" on the top left hand side of the screen.
Been looking for a new gps/sonar with si technology, was seriously considering the Garmin Echomap 73sv when I viewed a utube video, showed info that the Garmin doesn't have true down scan capabilities, because they wouldn't purchase the rights from Navico, the parent company of Lowrance, so their clear vu tech is a computer generation of the inside lobes of the side scan signal, to simulate the down scan image... Doing this causes the true down scan image to loose true information and details, so I'm really bummed to find this out, as their units are cheaper and I loved the clear crisp graphics...😟
I just recently watched a video from Lowrance as to why Garmin changed the name of from down vu to Clear vu, because Garmin refuses to buy the rights to Down scan TM technology, they can't employ true downscan in their transducer... they have no down facing element in it, they use a simulation program to create their Clear vu image from the inside signals received from their side scan cones. Very disappointed to find this out as I was planning to buy one of the new Garmin Echomaps, go to utube look up Lowrance down scan vs. Garmin Clear Vu
I've seen the video. Its a nice propaganda piece. Don't believe everything you see. Much like the Chevy vs Ford aluminum bed test.
I have a HB 798 at the helm right next to my 93SV. They both see the same images. The Garmin image in Chirp is much better that the HB. The Garmin isn't missing anything.
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