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    pheonix trailer questions

    Who builds the trailers for them? Can you get them without the oil bath hubs and get the regular grease hubs? Do they offer road armor coating? Thanks.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    yes you can get an upgrade to the gator hyde on the trailer. Its cheap too.....

    Not sure about te hubs but I have heard they will build it how youwant it. I cant remember the manufacturer, same people that build triton trailers. Trail master or something.... nightbasser help me out here.




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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    Marine Master in Tullahoma, Tn builds the trailers.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (alabamaphoenix)

    Jerry is correct marine master close to the factory right there in tullahoma Gatorhyde is a great option as is the channel frame option. Greasable hubs shouldnt be any problem at all
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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    The standard is not exactly oil bath hubs but "VAULT HYBRID LUBRICATION SYSTEM"

    Many believe bearing failures come from too much greasing. These are maintenance free.

    Research before making these changes....you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot! ...

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (falcooon)

    I have yet to see any problems out of the vault system myself
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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (nightbasser)

    This level of customization is why I am leaning towards a Phoenix. I fish brackish water and am TIRED of trailer maintenance every winter from the salt....I had inquired about an aluminum trailer and was told it would not be a problem.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (falcooon)

    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by falcooon &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">The standard is not exactly oil bath hubs but "VAULT HYBRID LUBRICATION SYSTEM"

    Many believe bearing failures come from too much greasing. These are maintenance free.

    Research before making these changes....you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot! ...
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    What are the differences between VHLS and oil bath's? I have always felt that most grease hubs fail due to over greasing. I have not had bearing or seal failure with my current rig going on 8 years. Thank's for the info. I was also considering possibly going to a aluminium trailer also.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    The vault system uses a hybrid grease/ oil that has a thicker viscosity than regular oil bath hubs. Here is a nice link to the vault hubs
    http://www.ufpnet.com/Portals/...e.pdf
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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (nightbasser)

    Thank's Junior thats good info

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    If you do not do aluminum, certainly get the "C" frame option. Very inexpensive and lets you rinse the trailer thoroughly. If you get rust spots you can prime and touch up. With a box frame, you are helpless in this respect.


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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (falcooon)

    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by falcooon &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">If you do not do aluminum, certainly get the "C" frame option. Very inexpensive and lets you rinse the trailer thoroughly. If you get rust spots you can prime and touch up. With a box frame, you are helpless in this respect.

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    No doubt if i go with steel it will be a C channel. I use my boat till' the lakes ice up and that means sometimes the roads have already been salted It would be a lot easier to clean C frame.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    The C channel framed trailers are actually an upcharge from Marine Master. Its not much but it is more than a tube trailer. I dont understand it, Phoenix doesnt understand it, but they do charge Phoenix more for them.

    On the hubs, the Vault hubs come with a 5 year warranty against any problems. For $50, you can buy an additional 5 years warranty (I think you can still do this). Thats how much better these hubs are over conventional or oil bath hubs. We have seen only one problem out of all of them we have sold.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (marty92xrd)

    Best trailer I have EVER towed and I've had a lot of boats (big and small) w/trailers in my day.

    Can run 80MPH (shhhh to the highway patrol) and it tracks like it's on rails. Functionally, it's the best trailer going and when they have fiberglass fenders will be the best looking too!!




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    (Currently shopping for my next bass boat)

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    They do pull great!!!!! The only boat that I have pulled that might pull better is the boatmate stroker combo and i have had just about everything behind my truck
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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (lknbassman)

    <table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by lknbassman &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Best trailer I have EVER towed and I've had a lot of boats (big and small) w/trailers in my day.

    Can run 80MPH (shhhh to the highway patrol) and it tracks like it's on rails. Functionally, it's the best trailer going and when they have fiberglass fenders will be the best looking too!!




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    I have to agree with it being the best pulling I've ever owned and I had a conversation with an officer in AL on my way back from Seminole a couple of weeks ago who'll back me up.

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    Thank's for the info guy's. Chuck i hope if they go to fiberglass fenders that they keep the steel ones as a option. I like the steel fenders better then the glass.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (champ223)

    I am not a fan of the fiberglass fenders but I am rather old school too, especially for my age. They fiberglass fenders to me take away from and cover up the boat when its sitting on the trailer.

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    I'll let you in on a little secret I've learned from the sea captains in Florida. They use Pledge on the trailers to help repel the salt and makes rinsing easier. Pledge has beeswax that seems to fight against the salt in the ocean or brackish water. I used to work for a company with hundreds of trucks and we used Pledge as a wax. Years later they still look new. I use it on everything.

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    Re: pheonix trailer questions (marty92xrd)

    Fiberglass fenders also have a tendency to crack with the changes in weather.

    I'll take metal anyday over glass.

    Russ



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