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  1. Charger Boats Moderator TOUCH OF CLASS's Avatar
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    #41
    Kinda like the no wake cove and there's 4 ft rollers beating the crap out of all the docks from the main channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    Calling? I'm thinking a BBC-endorsed petition with 100,000 signatures.
    Why Heck Yea!!!!.... I'm in now where do I sign?

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    #43
    Can't you just power unload and push the soil back under the ramp ?

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by brnzbaklvr View Post
    It's really not a big deal to winch the boat up a few inches to the rollers...If you get your trailer depth right you can drive right on...Like was pointed out it only takes a couple of minutes..
    I have seen guys with longer trailerable boats around 30 feet fall off the end of the concrete and get their trailers stuck..it isn't pretty..
    I would rather see the DNR spend money elsewhere in the state than extend the ramps...I don't see it being a big deal unless you and your truck driver have mobility problems..

    Years ago one of the local lake was down, I had a single Axle trailer and dropped off the end of the ramp into the wash out. Trailer frame dropped onto the ramp. Longer ramps would solve all the problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowabass3826 View Post
    Very common up north. The intent is to reduce guys blowing a big hole out where the concrete ends forming a hard drop off.
    does the water level never change? lanier would have to be 22 foot low for me to be where the concrete ends

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    #46
    Up here in MN the DNR discourages it but I don't believe it's illegal (yet). I don't like it either but they maintain approx 3000 public launch ramps (almost all natural lakes with minimal water level fluctuation) and it's easy to see how annual maint costs would really rack up.
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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by idbefishing View Post
    The ramps at St. Clair are made to load manually so you don't have to gun it hard to get the bow hook eye to the roller.
    I don't like that law either but regardless, it is a law and a ticket every time you get caught. Maybe these high profile events get special privileges us non-jersey wearing guys don't get.
    You drive the speed limit don't you? Come to a complete stop at every stop sign?

    If you had a jersey you wouldn't have to.

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    #48
    Sounds like somebody is bitter they haven't been called up to the bigs, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Teach View Post
    You drive the speed limit don't you? Come to a complete stop at every stop sign?

    If you had a jersey you wouldn't have to.
    I don't and I will get a ticket if I get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castforcash View Post
    I live 4 miles from metro where the tourney was held. Metro has no signs saying no power loading. It is not a state ramp. All the state ramps are no power loading. The concrete doesn't extend very far into the water at most of our state ramps. So when it gets washed out you create a situation where somebody can back their trailer off the concrete when launching, now your trailer is stuck and if not careful you can rip an axle off. Down south you have crazy water level fluctuations being that you're on impoundments with dams, so the concrete extends much further into the water. When I load my puma at state ramps, I simply back the trailer in further than normal and get a little momentum going, then shift to neutral and glide it on. Then go to the front and winch it up. Takes an extra two minutes tops....most of fishing forums here in Michigan get all butthurt and call us all b*******s. So in hindsight, if you launch at our state ramps, it is no power loading.
    I didn't know you can power load at the Metro park ramp. I knew the ramps are short on LSC so I just assumed that power loading is not allowed at all ramps. I did it manually at all the ramps at St. Clair, even the one at the mile roads.

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    #51
    I guess I'm one of the few who takes a few seconds and use the winch

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    I have never been anywhere that mandated this, although I hear people saying that powerloading blows out the ramps. If people are used to fishing mainly reservoirs they may not be familiar, but around me even with big snowmelt runoff in the spring the lakes normally only fluctuate in level about 4 or 5 feet maximum over the course of the year—pouring a ramp very far below the surface requires building a massive watertight retaining wall to get the area dry for very long—it’s prohibitively expensive to do it very frequently.
    Here's a picture of what they need to do on a natural lake to make a deeper boat ramp. I'd rather give up powerloading than have to pay my share of too many of these.
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    Many of the state ramps around me are either not paved at all (they are simply crushed rock or a gravel beach), or they are single-lane concrete blocks that are pre-made and placed onto a gravel shoreline—they use heavy machinery to move these blocks obviously, but they just do the best they can to level the foundation and then push the block into place. Most of these unpaved or block ramps don’t get big powerboats launching at them, but when the water is a bit low and you get a biggish boat it can be a real problem dropping off the end of the ramp. It's also a problem for many people pulling the boat out if there is an unpaved ramp surface that is full of ruts and holes from people powerloading...trailer can still drop into the hole or just get stuck...that in turn creates holes under the tires! The fact that people can’t powerload somewhere with this in mind doesn’t bother me in the least—I’d rather have a good ramp even if it means it takes every boat another minute and a half to take out…the ramps where crowding is an issue are all 2+ lanes and deeper concrete ramps, so at least in my area it would be a non-issue for everyone involved.
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    #53
    Its not just the concrete ramps that forbid power loading here in Michigan ...its ALL boat ramps in Michigan. My local lake has a dirt gravel ramp....the Marine Sheriff routinely bust the chops of any boater caught power loading. I keep a pair of duck boots when loading...simple to back the trailer in farther, and pull the boat up with the tether rope to the bow and strap it down. I have a 20' boat and have no issues loading. We also have a maximum speed limit...55. No problem as I have a Ranger, lol
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    #54
    I don't mind winching up the last foot or so...saves the wear and tear on the boat and the bow stop. One misalignment on a power load and you've got some nice gouges on your bow.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by catch5 View Post
    Sounds like it, but that's a dumb ass law anyway so I give him a pass. Lol
    Yep, its dumb ass especially when the end of the ramp ends with a big drop off from the prop wash,,,,very few times I can see the use of power loading. (High winds/cross current/handicapped)...other than that, just lazy.

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    Lol...here is Louisiana I don't think I've ever seen someone NOT power load. And we've never had problems with ramps falling apart because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean c View Post
    I don't mind winching up the last foot or so...saves the wear and tear on the boat and the bow stop. One misalignment on a power load and you've got some nice gouges on your bow.
    I seen that happen.... Guy was power loading at my local lake. His buddy is guiding him on the trailer. The boat rest comfortably to the bow and the guide gives the driver a thumbs up. Which I took as you're good, shut it off. Not this driver...he half throttles it and proceeds to BEND the trailer bow mount!! The driver response...."Did I just bend that mount again" I'm thinking AGAIN??? WTF.
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    #58
    I've always simply glided onto the trailer gently, shifted to neutral, and used the winch. It's not that big of a deal as we all grew up knowing that power loading in the Great Lakes state is illegal. As for the ramp length, anyone who asks "why aren't the ramps longer" clearly has never been to MI. Concrete, pavement, asphalt, etc., are rare precious metals for MI. The state absolutely hates to pave anything. It's why (in my opinion) MI has the worst roads and infrastructure in the country. Why should the ramps be any different? It's sad that the statewide ramps are so crappy because MI's lakes are absolutely beautiful.

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    They built a ramp on the little state lake by me a few years ago. I went down and watched the process. It was formed up on the bank then just pushed into the water to the desired spot. It is 12" wide and maybe 30' long. Took a big bulldozer to push it in. On most ramps I can judge how far the trailer needs to be in the water to slide on with a little bump of the throttle to finish getting to the bow stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hahn View Post
    Only place I have ever seen this is in Michigan.
    Pretty common in Wisconsin now too...
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