05 225 Etec on 05 200 Stratos

[dkwas]

I was finally able to get my boat out this week and have a few questions. This is a new boat to me in that I've had it for 3 weeks and the water has been too hard to run it. So here we go. First couple of run I had it at 72mph with 12psi and 5700 RPM's. I didn't think that was too impressive so I actually lowered the jackplate. Next couple of runs were 74.1 and 74.4 at 5950 RPM's, and 18 PSI. I know this is too many R's for that motor. Now the motor came with a 26 Raker II. So I guess the obvious would be to go up to a 28 right? I've seen others on this board say they are getting upper 70's and I'm guessing this would be because of the bigger prop? The boat walks some on that 26 at anything above 70 MPH but not too bad (if you know how to correct quickly). Everytime I raise it though I lose speed and PSI but lowers the RPM's (if that makes sense). My last boat was a 1997 201XL w/ a 225 Vind and what a difference in the raw power of this motor and how the boat handles. The 200 is a little tricky w/ the current setup but fun to drive. The 201 was stable but sluggish compared to the 200 w/ the ETec. Anyway, would the 28 Raker II be the best thing for this rig? Any/all opinions welcome.

Daryl

[Huntin 5]

There are basically two trains of thought on the correct prop for this setup. One group runs the 28 Raker II and the other group runs the 28 TXP. Both are excellent propellers. Either prop could be the one for you. The TXP is tougher than the Raker II and will sustain more punishment without noticeable loss of performance. The Raker II was faster on my setup and handled better at cruising speeds (35-50mph).

If I were you, I would find someone to loan you one of each and give them a try. Your boat will tell you which is better for you. But, I would say you need a 28 either way.

I don't understand why your rpm's went down when you raised your motor but I still think you need to try a 28 of either these two brands to get the numbers you are looking for. Unless you are carrying a REALLY heavy load.

Hope this helps.

[ChampioNman]

Sure it is easy to figure out he was loosing bite if you look at the PSI you can tell he was out of the H20 and when he brought it down the prop had more bite. and the H20 pressure went up too.

[Huntin 5]

His post said he turned 5700 rpm's @ 72 with 12 psi. He LOWERED THE MOTOR and turned 5950 rpm's @74.4 with 18psi.

Now, I can see where his psi increased. But how did he get more bite by lowering the motor and INCREASE rpm while doing it?

That does not make sense. If you get more bite you will loose rpm doing it, not gain.

If these numbers are accurate, there could be another issue with this setup. If everything is accurate, his slip percentage actually got worse as he lowered the motor.

[AB]

If the motor truly is a 225 Etec, and not a 225HO, a 28 will be too steep. A worked 27 Tempest set at 3.5"-3" under pad should get you right in the ballpark on that setup.

[dkwas]

Grant,

You made me think about my post and you are asking the right question which I didn't even think about. I have a 05 225 HO Etec (not a DI motor). Grant, why would a 28 Raker II be too much prop for this rig? I know it works for a 201 so why would it be not right for a 200? I know the 200 is smaller and weighs less so I would think it would be a better prop than a 26 Raker II, right? I am hitting 6K with the 26 so I would guess moving up to a bigger prop would be logical (to me) but I am very new to this rig and will let you folks who have one or more experience lead the way. I also understand why I increased the PSI and speed (with more bite) but don't understand the RPM decrease when it was set higher. Thanks.

Daryl

[Garfish]

I'd suggest you try a TXP 27p............G

[AB]

Remember, there is the 225 Etec (which has the Magnum gearcase and does not have ht stars and stripes decals) and the 225HO Etec. The 225, due to the Magnum gearcase, does not run fast enough on a 200 to turn the rpms to be able to utilize a 28. On the same 200, a 225 Etec will be 4mph slower on average compared to a 225HO Etec. Most of it is associated with the hydrodynamics of the lightning case and the extra "ponies" of the 225HO.

A Stratos 200ProXL with a 225 Etec needs a 27 Tempest to start with, then you can work from there.

A Stratos 200ProXL with a 225HO Etec needs a 28 Raker2 to keep the rpms down.

The 225 Etec needs to be set at 3.5-3" under pad, the 225HO can run higher, 3-2.75" under pad.

[ChampioNman]

Yep what Grant said. , Thanks buddy . Too bad you ain't coming to Guntersville. The crowd is going to miss you. Almost a Santee event!

[AB]

Wish I could, looks like I'm going to miss a lot of rallies this year.... Just way too much going on anymore....

[dkwas]

Gotcha, so the 28 Raker II it is. I heard the 28 would be good with the HO but wanted to ask before I did anything. 6K is way too much on that motor. Will the 28 Raker be easier to handle above 75 MPH? The 26 walks a bit over 72 or so and didn't know if that would improve with that 28 prop. I'm getting my seat time now and was a little scared at first due to inexperience in that rig. As the day went on I got better at it but it still walked from time to time where I had to slow down and collect myself. The 200 is a totally different beast than the old 201 I had. It's turn radius is much more responsive and doesn't blow out in turns like the 201 did. Much more fun to drive. I like the person who said in a previous post that the 200 is like a race car and the 201 like a Cadillac. I haven't taken it out on Erie yet but am looking forward to the challenge. I do want to get the seat time on the smaller waters first and get a real good feel before taking to Erie. Well that plus Erie is 37 degrees and the inland lakes feel much better on my skin when it's 70 (air temp).

Daryl

[AB]

Seat time is the key. The 200 is going to chinewalk, if you can't master it, then throw a 27 Trophy on. It won't chinewalk near as bad, but will also be slower. The best thing you can do is not try to go all out right now. Go out, bring her up to 3/4 throttle at a moderate trim, get used to it there, then bump the trim/throttle a touch. If it gets a bit hairy, then trim down, recollect your thoughts, then try again. None of us mastered our boats in a day. In the last couple of years I've amassed over 1000hrs in numerous boats, and I still don't get in one and try to run it all out on the first run....I wait til the third pass....

[Bassmeister]

Seems it was tha second pass on Lou's Bullet @ Santee!!!

[AB]

Dat weren't chit, you shoulda seen it two weeks ago when I was driving the Allison GrandSport and she dropped to the right rubrail at a tad over 100mph...

[Bassmeister]

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Just tha rubrail????????? GAS on it!!!!

[AB]

Heyll no!!!! I didn't gas it, I got out of it! Didn't want to spill my ....

[Bassmeister]