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  1. Member crazyju's Avatar
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    Hooked all four legs to the sears-pm last night and put a 3 bank on the trolling batteries. Quick look this morning and it is showing 13.1. I unplugged it and going to let it sit for a couple hours and see where it holds. Thanks again!

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    #22
    Needing to replace the cranking battery what would be the best option.I have a 250 pro XS and run a hds8 and a hds 10.

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    #23
    Unplugged for 4 hours and now showing 12.5v. Something draining? Was 8 hours charging with 40amps enough? Damaged battery when it got to 11.5?

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    #24
    EnerSys makers of the Odyssey PC-2150 has always provided great phone tech support.....don't know if they also will talk Sears PM-1 support on phone.... Might try.

    ODYSSEY Batteries - Official Manufacturer's Site

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    #25
    Still haven't seen ur answer on having your keypad swapped out. That might solve all your problems if you haven't done the recall.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Outofsightpdr View Post
    Still haven't seen ur answer on having your keypad swapped out. That might solve all your problems if you haven't done the recall.
    Got a call into ranger to check on the keypad.

    Battery is charging to 13.1-13.2 with master switch turned off or on. When i power up keypad, Voltage drops to 12.6-12.7 almost instantly. Is there a way to kill all power to the bow, while leaving the keypad powered? That way i can tell if its at the keypad or the bow.

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    #27
    when you power up the key pad you are energizing (load) the system as all functions of the boat are online and now have "potential" or are actually on.

    You can pull the cannon plug to the bow but it's not easy to get to

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    #28
    Understand that, but only draw with keypad on is panel lights, gauges and merc monitor? Should it drop that much?

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    #29
    it may...as the surface charge is getting pull off the battery. I think we need Lou to weigh back in on this again.

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    #30
    Still playing phone tag with ranger on the keypad.

    I checked the voltage at the battery on the water this weekend and it is .3-.4 higher than what the hds is showing. Fully charged they were within .1 of each other. Adding up everything and not running the big motor during the last two tournaments, is it possible i am just running the battery down?

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    #31
    The touches pull almost double what regular hds do. I posted a post awhile back on the pull of each.

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    #32
    Any one know the dimensions of the battery compartment on the drivers side on a 2010 z521?

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    #33
    Are you running a separate antenna for your Lowrance units like a LGC 4000? If so does it have a separate power disconnect switch? I had this problem with a fully charged Diehard Pt. and on a long trip like two hours to Guntersville or Chickamauga the low voltage alarm would go off the first time I started the boat and almost every time afterwards. Shutting off the main power disconnect on the last trip to Hartwell seemed to help but I still got the low voltage alarm about mid day. It was real annoying but the battery continued to start the Evinrude all day.
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    #34
    Yes i have a point one hooked into the nema

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    #35
    The battery, when healthy and fully charged with an approved charger should supply your loads listed above with little or no recharge during a typical day even not ever running the boat motor:

    Spec is 92AH(10hr rate) and 100AH (20hr rate). The factory tables indicate you can safely discharge (80%) the battery supplying your boat for example with continuous:
    a) 11amps for >8hours, or
    b) 6 amps for >16 hours
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    As mentioned earlier:
    Your battery charging appears to have been not approved method,

    the battery condition (when not being on charger) was not being monitored and become overly discharged falling below 11.85V * perhaps repeatedly,

    the battery may be irreversibly damaged.

    * (Lowrance's HDS min. input Power Voltage spec is 10.2V. The HDS Low Voltage Alarm can be programmed to trigger for example at 12.0 V, protecting a monitored 'house battery' from falling below an unsafe 11.85V discharge. The HDS High Voltage Alarm can be set to 15V alarming the operator should the charger apply a prohibited equalizing or other excessive battery damaging voltage.
    Last edited by Lou r Pitcher; 03-12-2014 at 01:18 PM.

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    #36
    Update: New sears pm-1, new 40 amp charger. After two trips everything seems fine. Only issue is, measuring voltage at battery and reading from hds, in garage is within .1 of each other. On the water there is a .4 to .5 difference. Maybe 1st two batteries were not as low as i thought? Lou, thank you very much for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyju View Post
    Thanks for all the help. How many people have an onboard charger that charges one bank @ 40 amps? Seems the sears pm-1 is not a good candidate for the bass boat then. Lou thank you for your post, you always seem to teach me something new.
    I had a similar issue on my bass cat. I switched out the PM1 with a Duracell AGM Series 31 (made by deka). Problem went away immediately and never surfaced again. I just bought 4 of them to replace Interstates in my Ranger. The PM1 is an awesome battery, but something isn't right. If you can't find a wiring issue, I would sell the PM1 and try a Duracell AGM.

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    #38
    Sorry to hear you are having a problem, but glad to find some information about it cause I'm having the same issue.
    2012 521 w/250 ProXS. Rub rail Black lights/Moon Lights/Docking Light, HDS10 & HDS8 (Gen1), Lowrance 4000, Sonic Hub, Sirius Antenna (Music only - not using weather), Smartcraft gauge, Minnkota 80.
    I ran this boat all 2012 and most of 2013 with Sirius Radio, black lights, without any issues. All of the sudden, battery won't even begin to spin that elephant motor and I'm dead in the water.
    Next time out I verified that the batteries were fully charged. 13.x volts w/master switch off. Fished a few spots, run the boat 10 minutes between spots. Within a few hours of fishing it would barely spin the Optimaxm and then finally it wouldn't start.
    While running down the lake with the Opti, I noticed that the smartcraft gauge would go into startup mode, then say "lost comm with engine (or something similar). Next time the gauge worked fine.
    Eventually, it stranded me while I was 5 miles down the lake, dark, in 30 degree weather.
    Then I remembered having an issue with the Key/Ignition panel.
    I was running down the lake, turned on the pumpout. As I was running I noticed that the aerator light on ignition panel was flashing. I couldn't turn it off. I shut the boat down, turned off the Opti, entered the code to shut down the panel but it wouldn't turn off. Bilge kept running. I had to flip the main breaker.
    This happened twice. The second time, I had to hit the main breaker twice.
    Also, once or twice I noticed that by touching the keypad (without entering the start code), it wouldn't turn off by itself ( I think there is a 10 minute timer on this).

    Dealer just replaced the ignition panel under the recall. After reading the post from Outofsightpdr, I'm starting to get the warm and fuzzy feeling that this is the issue.
    I went ahead and had an AGM-31 installed just to be safe.
    Praying that it doesn't happen on my once a year trip in April!
    Looking for a new boat!
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    #39
    Where do I find info on the ignition panel recall?

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    I'm not sure Joebw, but I'm sure any Ranger dealer would provide the information.
    Let me know if you aren't able to get that info and I can check for you.
    Looking for a new boat!
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