motor is a Venom 225 and they dont like to start in the cold.... today the air temp was about 32-33 and water temp was 64, this was at 8am. took 20 minutes to get that thing to start. i dread going out when it gets cold b/c of this. is there anything i can do to make the cold start ups a little more consistant. once it starts its fine the rest of the day
Move somewhere warmer (but not to Florida.)
Start it at home the day of or the night before. Let it run for a bit. It eliminates lots of surprises.
Modified by jgwufgator at 11:20 AM 10/16/2006
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Make: Johnson
Model: J200VXSSS
Serial: G04806863
Year: 2000
I have a 2000 225 HO and it is also very cold-blooded. When it gets cold I turn the key to run and hold the choke in the for about 30 seconds before even attempting to start it, usually about the time it takes for my partner to back down the ramp. Everytime it tries to die after it fires I push the choke and hold it for a few seconds. I had a horrible time starting this motor in cold weather until I started doing this. Every motor is different, but my rule of thumb for cold weather is choke it until you think you're going to flood it and then choke it some more!
That is exactly what I do 55belair. I choke it before I turn over the key then I push the choke in and hold while starting it. Once it is running I choke it to keep it running until it warms up enough to run on it's own. Then I let it idle at the dock while my fishing partner (wife) parks the truck n trailer. By then it is warm enough to idle out of the marina. After that it starts right up without an issue.
I guess that is the price we pay for carbed motors.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MNJAVELIN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess that is the price we pay for carbed motors.
Ain't that the truth!
If there are two people it's way easier. You do this priming exercise actually before cranking the motor. Of course don't crank the motor unless it's in the water.
2 person method:
Trim the motor down to the running position.
Have passenger sqeeze the primer bulb until it's hard, then while still squeezing the bulb, driver pushes in on the key to engage the primer solenoid for three seconds (don't crank the motor yet)... This primes the carbs with raw gas and now it should fire on the first revolution of the motor. Keep the key pushed in after it starts until it starts to flood and release and press it again until the motor will idle on it's own.
1 person method:
Trim the motor down to the running position.
Driver squeezes the primer until it's hard, then pushes the key in 3 seconds to prime the carbs (don't crank it yet!). Repeat this two or three times and then it should start on the first try.
The one person method takes longer because as soon as you push in on the key the fuel pressure is relieved and you need to squeeze the bulb again to build it back up. Your primer ONLY works if there is fuel pressure in front of it and there is only fuel pressure if you are cranking the engine or someone has sqeezed the fuel bulb.
IF your motor is fuel injected, holding the key in to "choke" (prime, enrichen) does nothing unless you are cranking the engine... The fuel injectors do NOTHING unless the engine is turning over. Holding the key in 30 seconds is just wasting 30 seconds.
IF you are carbureted, holding the key in to "choke" (prime, enrichen) does nothing unless you are cranking the engine OR if someone is squeezing the fuel primer bulb for you to build up fuel pressure. The primer solenoid IS NOT a pump, it's just a valve that opens and allows fuel to flow straight to the carburetor venturi and unless there is fuel pressure behind the valve to make fuel flow, holding the key in does nothing to help your motor start.
Actually on a carbed motor IF all of the electronics (sensors are up to snuff) and the Sync n link on the motor is on the money, then depressing the choke for a few seconds will suffice. The Primer system is a one time deal so no matter how long you depress the choke key it only lets a short burst into the intakes. When you release the key and hit it again you re-energize the solenoid.
Now if you hit it 2 or 3 times to "add fuel" to the carb circuit and attempt to start the motor it should fire off. Then feather the choke and add throttle.
I have always had sucess advancing the throttle to the first detent on the roller and applying the choke. Usually busts off in about 2 or 3 tries.
Hey, my point is to sqeeze the fuel line primer bulb, then CONTINUE squeezing it while pushing in on the keyswitch. If you maintain pressure on the fuel line primer bulb and hold the key in 3 seconds before you crank the motor, you will inject a good amount of gas in the carb throat and it will start almost instantly.
If you have easy access to the red lever on the primer, with the engine cowl off, you can sqeeze the primer bulb and turn the red lever at the same time and actually hear the gas squirting into the carb throats.
"The Primer system is a one time deal so no matter how long you depress the choke key it only lets a short burst into the intakes." -ChampionMan
The primer system as used on the carbureted motors is is an on/off solenoid actuated valve. Spring to close (normally closed), energize to open a small fuel circuit to the carb venturi(s). If you sqeeze the fuel line primer bulb (to make fuel pressure) and "push to choke" the key, the primer valve will continue to squirt gas into the carbs all day long if you continue sqeezing the primer bulb. It's not a one time deal, it's continuous flow of extra fuel as long as you continue to push in on the key and there is fuel pressure in the lines. It is only a short burst if you sqeeze the bulb to build pressure and then don't hold pressure on the bulb (the "1 Person Method" I mention in my previous post). or you are not cranking the engine so the fuel pump maintains fuel pressure.
Ok, try this......and as CM posted, if everything else is correct on the motor it will start and run the first time.
Trim motor level, prime the BRP fuel bulb until firm, turn key to the on position, push in and hold in choke position while cranking, when motor starts release key switch wait one half second then depress key switch three more times with half second pause between depressions.
If you have a Key/Kill switch releasing it rapidly from the choke position may turn the switch off.
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